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Detectives investigate and

NCD — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 20:13:13 +0000

Detectives investigate and determine how and where to arrest serial killers, not beat cops. In Atlanta, beat cops arrest guys who fall asleep in their parked car and then kill them when they panic and run, and their blue wall buddies think it's ok.

If the Atlanta police Union is 1/5 as ethical and popular with cops as that in NYC or Minneapolis, it shouldn't just lack power (does it lack power?) it should be disbanded.

Here's on the Atlanta

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:15:50 +0000

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Here's on the Atlanta slowdown--

Here's what the mayor said. She is sympathetic:

Atlanta Mayor @KeishaBottoms on police sickouts: "Across the country, morale is down with police departments. And I think ours is down tenfold. This has been a very tough few weeks in Atlanta ..." https://t.co/oImONbBKvF
— Greg Bluestein (@bluestein) June 18, 2020

from news radio reporter

I've been listening to Zone 6 Atlanta Police radio traffic for the last hour. There are 15 - 20 minute periods of absolute silence amid reports of officer walkouts. This clip was shared with @CherylPreheim by a police source. It's from Zone 3. The code 69 is Person With a Gun. pic.twitter.com/hkmbC5VF0Q
— Brendan Keefe (@BrendanKeefe) June 18, 2020

Maybe, just maybe, all police departments shouldn't be judged equally evil as Serpico suggests?

Maybe Atlanta does mostly have it's police act together, doesn't have a strong police union and the Rayshard Brooks shooting was really a one bad apple situation?

There is also this immediate

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:10:38 +0000

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There is also this immediate problem one can often have when one attacks the thin blue line, he wrote for Daily Beast

Can Probing Broken Police Departments Have Deadly Consequences?

RATIONAL TO RETREAT?

In five cities where police were investigated by the feds after high-profile killings of African-Americans, many more people were murdered in the years that followed.

The question would be: are those deaths worth it for what you are trying to do with reform? Is there a smarter way to go about it without letting the crime rate go wack? I.E.

Why does Atlanta need police? Well for one there is a serial killer hunting homeless people walking around https://t.co/nWvRx9is1V
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) June 18, 2020

That Atlanta PD are very successful at this one metric:

Atlanta's police have a clearance rate (bringing more murders to a close) significantly higher than most of the nation's big city police departments https://t.co/1ie2IT13jc
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) June 18, 2020

The Atlanta police work

artappraiser — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 17:59:30 +0000

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The Atlanta police work slowdown action is a very interesting situation as far as "what to do to reform police?" I ran across some items on that last night that were very thought provoking.

ESPECIALLY THIS:

Collective bargaining by public unions in Georgia is illegal. No public union in Georgia is powerful -- not police, teachers, firefighters, etc.
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) June 18, 2020

So you can forget about arguing the "powerful union" thing when it comes to them. (And it also comes to mind: what's good for the goose is good for the gander..if one doesn't want powerful police unions, maybe teachers and social workers shouldn't have them either? Taxpayer, the employer, should have the ultimate power? That's exactly what Dorothy Roberts is arguing on another news thread I posted. It's a not a big gov. Dem argument, it's just the opposite, it's a libertarian argument--don't send your social working people into my house to tell me how to raise my kids. Next thing you know, it will be "don't make my kids learn from your curriculum")

Police do not want to be held

rmrd0000 — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 12:02:42 +0000

In reply to Serpico on Police Racism: ‘We Have This Virus Among Us’

Police do not want to be held accountable. For police to be satisfied, you have to accept police abuse. When six Baltimore police officers were charged after the death of Freddie Gray, the police response to calls slowed down. After officers were charged in Atlanta, there is a suggestion that the police response time increased. The unions always back officers. I don't know how this will be resolved, but I see police.I think that police will viewed as an occupying force rather than protectors by a significant number of people in some communities.

Note that the mayor of Atlanta got a historic wage hike for Atlanta officers, and if the reports of the slowdown are true, they still abandoned her because the DA brought charges against "fellow" officers.

Excellent interview. The guy

NCD — Thu, 18 Jun 2020 05:23:56 +0000

In reply to Serpico on Police Racism: ‘We Have This Virus Among Us’

Excellent interview. The guy may not be the only honest (former) cop in NY, but he unfortunately still has far too little company. His "the code of the blue wall of silence" is more strict than the Mafia is telling.