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You've probably heard me say

artappraiser — Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:29:56 +0000

In reply to James Lindsay on Joe Rogan's Show

You've probably heard me say that Woke ideology views civility as a manifestation of "white supremacy." Well, yes, it does. Here, spelled out in one of the usual ways, a "critical genealogy," which means cherry-picking history to dismantle trust/meaning.https://t.co/qQOLiVWCDl
— James Lindsay, knows kung fu (@ConceptualJames) July 16, 2020

Because Cracow Is a largish

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 06:26:25 +0000

In reply to Google image search matches

Because Cracow Is a largish progressive city.

And all around the world there were marches of support for Black Lives Matter (the concept, not necessarily the group)

Demographics:

Polish 96.9%, Silesian 1.1%, German 0.2%, Ukrainian 0.1%, other and unspecified 1.7% (2011 est.) note: represents ethnicity declared first

Google image search matches

EmmaZahn — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 05:57:24 +0000

In reply to This picture really struck me

Google image search matches people at a protest in Cracow Poland. Cracow? Why?

Martin Gurri has some thoughts about the phenomenon, not Cracow per se.

This picture really struck me

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 02:50:40 +0000

In reply to Like it or not, it's not just

This picture struck me as very symbolic of the situation about which I wrote above:

There is one black person in this picture. It's like where's Waldo lmao. pic.twitter.com/8uNwZLdJTo
— Jim Trutsle (@trutsle) July 11, 2020

P.S. what's going on at the

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 02:44:30 +0000

In reply to Like it or not, it's not just

P.S. what's going on at the NYTimes is like nothing compared to what is going on in the museum world! What they publish is mild compared to what you're going to start seeing in museum exhibitions. It's like the Reign of Terror for any older people trying to keep museums open while many are near bankruptcy....

Most of Lindsay's examples are not exaggeration because he's mainly dealing with academic "scholarship" from where it is most entrenched already.

Like it or not, it's not just

artappraiser — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 02:35:37 +0000

In reply to About the only time I read

Like it or not, it's not just in journalism. All the twenty-somethings and many thirty-somethings who took humanities courses in college were indoctrinated with wokeness, it seems. Lots of us weren't paying attention to this change.

Businesses were and are and are paying attention and marketing to this cohort because they are the ones who will have the money to spend on things like subscriptions, books, music, entertainment etc. (and er, art for their home, if you get my drift). It's just about money with the NYTimes, maintaining a good chunk of elite educated readership.

I saw it already at the big auction houses five years ago, the changes they were making in the way they operate. Coronavirus lockdown just allowed them to accelerate what they were trying to do.

It's worldwide among first world educated young people.

I don't like it but it is what it is. Those that don't agree with it have become a niche market as far as business is concerned. For now. For sure it will change, change is the only constant. But I will probably be dead by then....in the meantime, ignoring is not smart, I think.

About the only time I read

EmmaZahn — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:30:45 +0000

In reply to Emma you made a side comment

About the only time I read anything from NYTimes is when someone I follow links to something that sounds interesting. Most often those are opinion columns and long-read features. Only rarely do I read links to NYTimes news since I have already read the same national and international stories on other sites and local NY news is of little interest to me.

IIRC, my comment that you are referring to was on the local story about the idiot (NYC's version of Florida Man) who accidentally set his own house on fire with fireworks. I thought the story was interesting but the journalism shoddy. It seemed to be trying so hard to excuse the likely future Darwin Award winner's actions. What a missed opportunity to write a hilarious cautionary tale. Had to be written by someone humorless and wokees as a group do seem to be uniquely lacking in ***lowercase***black humor. Then I remembered this tweet -- note the timestamp:

The future of journalism: New York Times Journalism Institute, Class of 2018 @NYT_Institute @NYTimes pic.twitter.com/PxXMVuxbsV
— Victoria Leandra (@leandrareports) May 25, 2018

from: About the NYT Institute

The New York Times Student Journalism Institute is run by The New York Times in partnership with the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY.

The Institute is offered once a year in May. Participants must be enrolled college students (or December or May graduates) who are members of these leading national organizations focused on diversity: the National Association of Black Journalists, the National Association of Hispanic Journalists, the Asian American Journalists Association or the Native American Journalists Association or students (or December or May graduates) at a historically black college or university.

There is no cost to attend the Institute. Students are provided with room and board and all of their costs, including transportation to and from the Institute, are paid by The New York Times Company.

from: About the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY

We are the only publicly funded graduate journalism school in the heart of the media capital; indeed, in the entire Northeast. Our mission is to serve the public interest – by training new journalists who will bring much-needed diversity to newsrooms, by helping mid-career journalists retool their skills, and by partnering with other media organizations to find new paths to excellence.

Our low tuition rates, along with the added backing of private donors, allow candidates for our master’s degrees in journalism and social journalism to receive a world-class education at an affordable price.

Other diversity initiatives mentioned on the CUNY-Newmark About Us page:

from: About the Knight Diversity Initiative

The Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism houses this diversity initiative; its goal is to address under-representation in U.S. newsrooms and build a stronger pipeline of academically excellent and digitally trained minority journalists.

Since the summer of 2015, Knight’s grant has paid for all expenses to bring 18 aspiring journalists to New York City for two months — June and July — to receive digital-journalism training and participate in media internships. The members of each cohort were also in the running for five full scholarships to earn their master’s degree in journalism at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism, if they apply and are admitted to the J-School.

from: About New York City News Service

The NYCity News Service is an award-winning media outlet that feeds stories to news organizations of all types and sizes, and produces in-depth special reports.

The News Service is based in Midtown Manhattan and run out of the newsroom at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at CUNY.

Stories are reported, written and prepared by students, under the close supervision of the school’s news director and professors—all veteran journalists, led by Dean Sarah Bartlett.

The NYCity News Service aims to provide incisive coverage of the city’s many and varied neighborhoods, which do not receive enough journalistic attention. The NYCity News Service strives to tell New York stories in multiple media formats, reflecting the energy, concerns and diversity of the city. The pieces are held to the highest and most professional standards of fairness and accuracy. We will accept no less.

There is a lot of emphasis on diversity in future journalists' training. Not surprising they appear to be heavily woke.

Pretty sure Conway's being

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:12:24 +0000

In reply to Ok, after that, then get

Pretty sure Conway's being tongue-in-cheek here.

Ok, after that, then get

artappraiser — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:38:24 +0000

In reply to There's something going on,

Ok, after that, then get outside your liberal box and see this from the perspective of Never Trumpers. Just ran across this retweeted by Radio Free Tom/Tom Nichols:

Couldn’t agree more. We must join together and do everything in our power to prevent A.G. Sulzberger from being elected president. https://t.co/MtfDfXFyI4
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) July 14, 2020

There's something going on,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:10:00 +0000

In reply to Emma you made a side comment

There's something going on, but Tom Cotton seems a bad example. The right Is fixated on getting a twisted, mendacious version of "facts" in as first strike, so that becomes the viewpoint, the standard against which other opinions are judged. The guest opinion column format can be misused, not treated in good faith, like White House leaks to Judith Miller - once a sources of valuable inside information turned into callously taming the system.

We see how News agencies have had to start fact-checking Trump real time. The opinion page can't be assumed to be carte blanche, though some people will respect and adhere to the supposed tradition/rules of the game.

(I had an ironic thought that the 1st Amendment Is giving way in importance to the personal security-focused 2nd, with nearly 20 years post-9/11 cultural repositioning?)

Here's part of a thread on the woke vs old folk matter, pls click for rest:

“The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.” 2/
— Juliette Kayyem (@juliettekayyem) June 5, 2020