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Chris Hayes just says no to

artappraiser — Sat, 11 Jul 2020 03:41:16 +0000

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Chris Hayes just says no to Trump caused culture wars, good for him:

Houston hospitals are telling ambulances not to bring them emergency patients because they're full. https://t.co/H596G4tycV
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) July 10, 2020

(This really did start with a very serious lefty movement to boycott Goya because of CEO appearing with Trump the other day. Nobody was boycotting Goya before that. It's all about being for or against Trump.)

These numbers, from

artappraiser — Fri, 10 Jul 2020 03:56:27 +0000

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These numbers, from @RonBrownstein, are nuts. Compared to '68, today there are:

-half as many white Christian voters
-eight times as many secular voters
-half as many small-town/rural voters
-triple the number of voters with some college educationhttps://t.co/HL57JPHjBO
— Nora Kelly Lee (@nora_kelly) July 9, 2020

Over several years of reading

artappraiser — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 20:44:28 +0000

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Over several years of reading such comments I have come to the conclusion that the message is one must fix racism before anything else. Lock em all up or send them off to a reservation. Then all our other problems will work out much more easily.

Where will one draw the line over who is labeled racist and needs to be expunged from society and who is not? Ah that is something one can talk about and discuss endlessly! And one does.

There's an extra added conundrum: if one doesn't want to talk about it endlessly and don't always find the topic a #1 uber alles priority, is one a racist who needs to be expunged?

And then finally, reiterating the point of the thread: what Drrump is totally on board with is endless talk about it. Emotional reactions to ANY tribal culture war, whether racial or some other = Ratings!

From the article

rmrd0000 — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:28:39 +0000

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From the article

Housing advocates are calling for a uniform, nationwide eviction moratorium that covers all renters, as well as other federal aid in the form of emergency rental relief. The House or Representatives has passed several measures, including the Health and Economic Recovery Omnibus Emergency Solutions, or HEROES, Act and the Emergency Housing Protections and Relief Act of 2020, to address the housing crisis. Neither bill is expected to pass the Republican-controlled Senate.

Trump sought help in

rmrd0000 — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:24:05 +0000

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Trump sought help in elections from foreign governments

Farmers were hurt by his tariffs

He mishandled the COVID epidemic

That's just off the top of my head.

I'm not inhibiting discussion of other factors that encourage people to support Trump.

I do point out that several Conservatives note Trump's racism.

Jennifer Rubin of the WaPo talks about his racism

Multiple people discussed the racism of his Mt Rushmore speech.

Feel free to discuss other reasons for his support, I'm not stopping you.

You make it sound like

moat — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:08:32 +0000

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You make it sound like discussing other factors than race is a denial of racial dynamics. I don't see the utility of such a point of view.

Identity is "enough" of a

rmrd0000 — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 13:19:30 +0000

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Identity is "enough" of a factor. Republican strategist Stuart Stevens has an upcoming book detailing the Republican Party's descent into racism. Title: "It Was All A Lie".

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/623807/it-was-all-a-lie-by-stuart-stevens/

The bottom line is that they are willing to vote for a racist.

Edit to add

There is a good article on the discussion of racism and the GOP in the NYT in March

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/opinion/trump-republicans-racism.html

Is your comment a reply to

moat — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 11:55:28 +0000

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Is your comment a reply to mine? I wasn't pretending that a culture war was not happening,

I thought the discussion was about how much of trump's support was anchored in the dynamics of identity. It obviously is an important factor but it is not the only one. And identity is not just one image that all the supporters share.

Note that writing "BLM" lot

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 04:49:05 +0000

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Note that writing "BLM" lot "Black Lives Matter" Is the simplest way of showing support fór the cause, but largely has nothing to do with the organization itself, support fór tactics or actions or whatnot.

While culture war moral

artappraiser — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 04:35:17 +0000

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While culture war moral panics sweep America, 32 percent of our country missed housing payments in July. Political and cultural divisions are too deep to unite Americans to deal with this pain. https://t.co/w4WnQC8wUz
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) July 9, 2020