dagblog - Comments for "Obama recommends on police reform" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obama-recommends-police-reform-31828 Comments for "Obama recommends on police reform" en Obviously this means they get http://dagblog.com/comment/287915#comment-287915 <a id="comment-287915"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/287911#comment-287911">1. The #BLM approach to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Obviously this means they get a free shot at everybody.</p> <p>Edit to add:</p> <p>Stop and Frisk made some people feel safe</p> <p>It made 90% of people stopped feel like targets.</p> <p>Police community relations were not improved.</p> <p>I refuse to give up my right to be treated with dignity to soothe a police officer's fears.</p> <p>That is a police state.</p> <p>In a recent incident a woman and her young relatives were forced onto hot asphalt for a bogus police stop</p> <p>Coleman is free to sacrifice his relatives to that treatment, my relatives expect better.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:22:37 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 287915 at http://dagblog.com 1. The #BLM approach to http://dagblog.com/comment/287911#comment-287911 <a id="comment-287911"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obama-recommends-police-reform-31828">Obama recommends on police reform</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">1. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BLM?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BLM</a> approach to analyzing police shootings assumes that things like this don't happen: <a href="https://t.co/Th2BkosGbO">https://t.co/Th2BkosGbO</a><br /><br /> Every cop must have this in their head as a non-zero possibility when they make a routine traffic stop.</p> — Coleman Hughes (@coldxman) <a href="https://twitter.com/coldxman/status/1299050577435996162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">2. A cop gets shot almost every day in America: <a href="https://t.co/vDrzjBrKcm">https://t.co/vDrzjBrKcm</a><br /><br /> This makes policing in America fundamentally different from policing in Europe, where cops have (almost) no reason to fear being shot.</p> — Coleman Hughes (@coldxman) <a href="https://twitter.com/coldxman/status/1299050578346209280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 27 Aug 2020 18:21:32 +0000 artappraiser comment 287911 at http://dagblog.com 81% of Black Americans Don't http://dagblog.com/comment/287557#comment-287557 <a id="comment-287557"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obama-recommends-police-reform-31828">Obama recommends on police reform</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/81-black-americans-dont-want-less-police-presence-despite-protestssome-want-more-cops-poll-1523093">81% of Black Americans Don't Want Less Police Presence Despite Protests—Some Want More Cops: Poll</a></p> <p>By Jocelyn Grzeszczak @ Newsweek.com, Aug. 5</p> <blockquote> <p>A majority of Black Americans have said they want police presence in their area to either remain the same or increase, despite recent protests over police brutality, according to new polls.</p> <p><span style="font-size:18px">A Gallup <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/316571/black-americans-police-retain-local-presence.aspx?utm_source=tagrss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=syndication" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">poll</a> conducted from June 23 to July 6 surveying more than 36,000 U.S. adults</span> found that 61 percent of Black Americans said they'd like police to spend the same amount of time in their community, while 20 percent answered they'd like to see more police, totaling 81 percent. Just 19 percent of those polled said they wanted police to spend less time in their area.</p> <p>Black Americans' responses to the question were nearly on par with the national average, in which 67 percent of all U.S. adults said they wanted police presence to remain the same and 19 percent said they wanted it to increase.</p> <p>The poll's results come amid <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/arrests-drop-sharply-after-withdrawal-federal-agents-portland-1522293" rel="noopener" target="_blank">continuing nationwide protests</a> over police brutality and systemic racism. The rise of the Black Lives Matter movement, which activists founded in 2013, has led the U.S. to its largest collective push for civil rights since the 1960s.</p> <p>Calls to defund and even abolish entire police departments are popular talking points among BLM activists. Miski Noor, an organizer and activist with Black Visions Collective in Minnesota, recently told WBUR that abolitionists "100 percent" mean they want no more police officers.</p> <p>On May 30, five days after George Floyd died at the hands of Minneapolis police officers, BLM called for the of defunding police in a statement on its website [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 22 Aug 2020 04:00:59 +0000 artappraiser comment 287557 at http://dagblog.com Ah now here we have the hard http://dagblog.com/comment/286618#comment-286618 <a id="comment-286618"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obama-recommends-police-reform-31828">Obama recommends on police reform</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Ah now here we have the hard complicated truth as I see it after reading a gazillion things on topic. And I suspect Obama might agree-so I am plopping it here- he's a smart and reasonable cookie who has talked to a lot of folks about things like this and policy and realities, and thought long and hard about it since his community organizing days, not to mention seen how policing works out around the world. He's just not ready and able to admit this reality for political reasons, maybe never will be able to:</p> <p><a href="https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/27/the-protests-were-whiter-than-the-police-department/">"The protests were whiter than the police department’</a></p> <p><em>Peter Moskos – sociologist and former Baltimore cop – talks to spiked about race, policing and mass incarceration.</em></p> <p>By Tom Slater, Deputy Editor @ Spiked-online.com, July 27</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 05 Aug 2020 23:26:08 +0000 artappraiser comment 286618 at http://dagblog.com I question this story. He http://dagblog.com/comment/286473#comment-286473 <a id="comment-286473"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/285337#comment-285337">Black officer in Portland</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I question this story. He says blacks and Latinos wanted to talk to him, but the conversation was stopped by white people, repeatedly. No black or Latino person told the white person to STFU? </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 03 Aug 2020 02:39:37 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 286473 at http://dagblog.com Portland had the highest http://dagblog.com/comment/286461#comment-286461 <a id="comment-286461"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obama-recommends-police-reform-31828">Obama recommends on police reform</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Portland had the highest number of homicides of any single month in three decades. The police are tied up defending a courthouse that rioters are trying to burn down for...reasons<a href="https://t.co/7XfBJ6Lhjn">https://t.co/7XfBJ6Lhjn</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1290019146823094273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 03 Aug 2020 01:05:50 +0000 artappraiser comment 286461 at http://dagblog.com Doleac is Economics professor http://dagblog.com/comment/285916#comment-285916 <a id="comment-285916"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obama-recommends-police-reform-31828">Obama recommends on police reform</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Doleac is<em> Economics professor <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/TAMU">@TAMU</a>,  Director <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/JusticeTechLab">@JusticeTechLab</a>, Host of the <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/ProbCausation">@ProbCausation</a> ​podcast. I study crime &amp; discrimination.</em></p> <p><em> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I talked with <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mattyglesias</a> about policing and recidivism and the role of research in improving criminal justice policy. Check out the latest episode of The Weeds:<a href="https://t.co/sPDAOgW39m">https://t.co/sPDAOgW39m</a></p> — Jennifer Doleac (@jenniferdoleac) <a href="https://twitter.com/jenniferdoleac/status/1286641987815383041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </em></p> </div></div></div> Sat, 25 Jul 2020 03:13:16 +0000 artappraiser comment 285916 at http://dagblog.com ^A "must watch". Intelligent http://dagblog.com/comment/285338#comment-285338 <a id="comment-285338"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/285337#comment-285337">Black officer in Portland</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><span style="font-size:24px">^</span><span style="font-size:13px">A "must watch". Intelligent cop with history degree with his own earnest grievances about adolescent "BLM" protesters.</span></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:05:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 285338 at http://dagblog.com Black officer in Portland http://dagblog.com/comment/285337#comment-285337 <a id="comment-285337"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obama-recommends-police-reform-31828">Obama recommends on police reform</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Black officer in Portland describes street confrontations between violent crowds of protesters far more white than the heavily minority police forces trying to maintain order <a href="https://t.co/5kaD8vmiUd">https://t.co/5kaD8vmiUd</a></p> — Wesley Yang (@wesyang) <a href="https://twitter.com/wesyang/status/1283833236251127808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:59:23 +0000 artappraiser comment 285337 at http://dagblog.com Things aren't looking good http://dagblog.com/comment/285322#comment-285322 <a id="comment-285322"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/285304#comment-285304">Interesting that the NYPost</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Things aren't looking good for the NYPD becoming open to acting more humanely towards strangers::</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">You don't see this every day. "Highest-ranking officer" means just that. (The commissioner is a civilian appointment.) "Terence A. Monahan, New York’s highest-ranking uniformed chief, was one of several officers who were attacked on the Brooklyn Bridge." <a href="https://t.co/pGg4JMFyeq">https://t.co/pGg4JMFyeq</a></p> — Bad Hombre "remains silent" Moskos (@PeterMoskos) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterMoskos/status/1283635307536154624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>I don't see no de-escalation or non-violent theory here. I see tribal hatreds.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 16 Jul 2020 05:29:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 285322 at http://dagblog.com