dagblog - Comments for "Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850 Comments for "Trump campaign TV ad with "defund the police" topic" en He likes the talking points http://dagblog.com/comment/286877#comment-286877 <a id="comment-286877"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850">Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>He likes the talking points he heard on Fox this morning (better than what his own campaign is saying he should say, no doubt):</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The “suburban housewife” will be voting for me. They want safety &amp; are thrilled that I ended the long running program where low income housing would invade their neighborhood. Biden would reinstall it, in a bigger form, with Corey Booker in charge! <a href="https://twitter.com/foxandfriends?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@foxandfriends</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MariaBartiromo</a></p> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1293517514798960640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>The tell: he doesn't know anything about what Corey Booker did until he heard Fox's spin on it this morning.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:00:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 286877 at http://dagblog.com Yup Barr for sure is sticking http://dagblog.com/comment/286699#comment-286699 <a id="comment-286699"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850">Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yup, Barr for sure is sticking with this meme:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">That time you’re driving in Virginia and the Attorney General spots a group of people in front of a police precinct showing their support for the police.<br /><br /> AG to FBI Detail: “Can we make a quick U-Turn? I want to jump out and thank those people.”<br /><br /> Watch! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SoundOn?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SoundOn</a> <a href="https://t.co/3atSicAgdC">pic.twitter.com/3atSicAgdC</a></p> — Kerri Kupec DOJ (@KerriKupecDOJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/KerriKupecDOJ/status/1291530264229945344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 07 Aug 2020 06:30:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 286699 at http://dagblog.com Arta's suspicions on this http://dagblog.com/comment/286620#comment-286620 <a id="comment-286620"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850">Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Arta's suspicions on this were correct. The House Republicans have been instructed by leader Kevin McCarthy <u>(informed by the best political advisers money can buy)</u> that these are the top three attacks they should use on Democrats:</p> <blockquote> <p><strong>The messaging also ascribes "three Ds" to Democrats:</strong></p> <ol><li><strong>"Defund </strong>our police, border patrol, and military."</li> <li><strong>"Dismantle </strong>our social, economic, and political institutions."</li> <li><strong>"Destroy </strong>our small businesses and entrepreneurs with crushing taxes and regulation" — the GOP leader pointed to the destruction of monuments during recent protests.</li> </ol></blockquote> <p>Those are the negative campaigning recommends, here's the positive:</p> <blockquote> <p>The plan highlights "three R's" that Republicans should exhaust on the campaign trail this fall.</p> <ol><li><strong>"Renew</strong> the American Dream" (focused on individuals): School choice, workforce training, expanding broadband in rural communities &amp; 5G, protecting individual freedoms.</li> <li><strong>"Restore</strong> our Way of Life" (focused on communities): Defeating the coronavirus, protecting Americans' health, reopening safely and responsibly, ensuring safe neighborhoods.</li> <li><strong>"Rebuild </strong>the Greatest Economy Ever" (a nationwide goal): Tax deregulation, fixing roads &amp; bridges, "America First" and China-critical messaging around trade and supply chains.</li> </ol></blockquote> <p>from<a href="https://www.axios.com/exclusive-inside-mccarthy-new-gop-messaging-platform-218302b5-dd73-4747-bdf1-e01c52c11c00.html"> Exclusive: Inside McCarthy's new GOP messaging platform </a>by Alayna Treene @ Axios.com, Aug. 4</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 05 Aug 2020 23:40:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 286620 at http://dagblog.com Whatever it turns out to be, http://dagblog.com/comment/286225#comment-286225 <a id="comment-286225"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850">Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Whatever it turns out to be, no doubt he's not going to follow it, but that's another thing:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Interesting <a href="https://t.co/dyTzdSZZDU">https://t.co/dyTzdSZZDU</a></p> — Tom Wright (@thomaswright08) <a href="https://twitter.com/thomaswright08/status/1289004444840087552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 31 Jul 2020 01:10:39 +0000 artappraiser comment 286225 at http://dagblog.com "President Trump is now, http://dagblog.com/comment/286210#comment-286210 <a id="comment-286210"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/286179#comment-286179">He&#039;s trying this related meme</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">"President Trump is now, effectively, the 'NIMBY-In-Chief.'"<br /><br /> Read our full statement &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://t.co/AFYEQ59Cvp">https://t.co/AFYEQ59Cvp</a></p> — California YIMBY (@cayimby) <a href="https://twitter.com/cayimby/status/1288660619562897408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 30 Jul 2020 07:05:32 +0000 artappraiser comment 286210 at http://dagblog.com He's trying this related meme http://dagblog.com/comment/286179#comment-286179 <a id="comment-286179"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850">Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>He's trying this related meme:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">President Trump: "There will be no more low-income housing forced into the suburbs." <a href="https://t.co/JdJ8UuLdTQ">https://t.co/JdJ8UuLdTQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/w5UeL6sMlZ">pic.twitter.com/w5UeL6sMlZ</a></p> — The Hill (@thehill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1288607600741879808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 29 Jul 2020 22:49:50 +0000 artappraiser comment 286179 at http://dagblog.com But it also should be noted http://dagblog.com/comment/286021#comment-286021 <a id="comment-286021"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/286016#comment-286016">For the record, Trump&#039;s own</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But it also should be noted that 9 hrs. ago, there were enemies everywhere:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Paul Ryan, The Washington Post, Fox, the Reagan Foundation... enemies everywhere.<br /> There are the ravings of a paranoid. <a href="https://t.co/YyWuUTtQGO">https://t.co/YyWuUTtQGO</a></p> — Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) <a href="https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1287456896245530626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 27 Jul 2020 03:42:09 +0000 artappraiser comment 286021 at http://dagblog.com For the record, Trump's own http://dagblog.com/comment/286016#comment-286016 <a id="comment-286016"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850">Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>For the record, Trump's own argument today as of 4 hrs. ago--I guess after golf and dinner, so relaxed:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The “protesters” are actually anarchists who hate our Country. The line of innocent “mothers” were a scam that Lamestream refuses to acknowledge, just like they don’t report the violence of these demonstrations! <a href="https://t.co/A0IBAzqVoT">https://t.co/A0IBAzqVoT</a></p> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1287517470497083393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 27 Jul 2020 03:20:48 +0000 artappraiser comment 286016 at http://dagblog.com countering some lecturers at http://dagblog.com/comment/285975#comment-285975 <a id="comment-285975"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/trump-campaign-tv-ad-defund-police-topic-31850">Trump campaign TV ad with &quot;defund the police&quot; topic</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>countering some lecturers at Dagblog that all Trump voters are racists, Vanity Fair has access to an important Dem poll that purportedly showed that not only swings but many "soft" Trump supporters have switched their allegiance due to Trump's reaction to Black Lives Matter protests:</p> <p><a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/polling-trumps-protest-response-could-cost-him-2020#intcid=recommendations_vanity-fair-right-rail_358d8250-6339-493a-8a26-dd1b5174fdf1_popular4-1">“TRUMP COULD NOT BE MORE ON THE WRONG SIDE”: NEW POLL SHOWS TRUMP’S BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTEST RESPONSE COULD COST HIM 2020</a></p> <p><em>Exclusive polling suggests the protests changed Americans’ minds so quickly, and so profoundly, that Trump planted himself even further on the wrong side of public opinion than previously understood.</em></p> <p>By Peter Hamby @ VanityFair.com, July 24</p> <blockquote> <p>[....] Shortly after the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on May 25, the Democratic research firm Avalanche went into nine battleground states—Arizona, Colorado, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Georgia, North Carolina, Iowa, and Pennsylvania—to measure how segments of Americans were reacting to the protests. Unlike most pollsters at the time, Avalanche surveyed two large back-to-back samples of 6,986 registered and unregistered total voters—one on June 1 and a second on June 10 and 11—allowing it to track how sentiments changed during what might have been the most consequential chapter of the protests. Like most polls, Avalanche found widespread support for the protests by June 11, with 68% of respondents saying the protesters were “completely right” or “somewhat right.” But rather than measuring responses by self-identified partisanship—Democrat, Republican, independent—Avalanche measured by vote choice. It organized respondents into five segments: Vote Trump, Lean Trump, Mixed Feelings, Lean Biden, and Vote Biden.</p> <p>Avalanche found resounding support for the protests not just among Biden supporters, but among persuadable voters and even soft Trump supporters. The hardcore Vote Trump respondents were against the protests, with 56% opposing them. But among the softer Lean Trump set, an eye-opening 59% said the protesters were “completely right” or “somewhat right”—probably not what the president had in mind when he commandeered Lafayette Square. And 72% of Americans with Mixed Feelings about the presidential race—precious undecided voters—said the protesters were right too. “There’s not a lot of issues where you get even a strong majority of Americans on the same page,” said <strong>Michiah Prull,</strong> the CEO of Avalanche. “It speaks to that historic moment, and it speaks to a degree of national alignment on something that's honestly pretty rare these days.”</p> <p>But just as remarkable were the shifts among those persuadables in the 10 days between June 1 and June 11, a window that opened with burning cities and Trump’s march to St. John’s Church, but concluded with mostly peaceful demonstrations nationwide. During that period Avalanche found that support for the protests grew 10 points among Mixed Feelings voters, 14 points among Lean Biden voters, and a head-spinning 25 points among Lean Trump voters. “I had never in my research career seen public opinion shift on the scale in this time frame,” Prull said. “When we look at this from electoral context, when you see a 25-point swing in Lean Trump supporters from disapproving of the protests to at least somewhat agreeing with them, that’s just a scale of public opinion shift you don’t see in this line of work very often.”</p> <p>The reasons persuadables moved from opposing to supporting the protests, Prull said, can mostly be attributed to the demonstrations growing and becoming largely peaceful by their second week, with human stories of everyday police brutality saturating the media environment. Trump’s strongman performance on June 1 did almost nothing to turn public opinion against the demonstrations. Instead it likely backfired. “Between those two dates, the big driver that I see is the protests becoming larger and even more peaceful each day,” Prull told me. “The story was being told by people who are being hurt by police every day, and the empathy with that, and frankly the reasonableness of that, was breaking through. And then the president tear-gassing protestors outside the White House lawn, I think, was a nontrivial part of this. You had the draconian response of the government, and then the protests just seemed even more reasonable when it was a bunch of regular people being tear-gassed in the middle of Washington D.C. for the sake of a photo op.” [....]</p> </blockquote> <p>This would certainly explain some of Biden's recent public behavior and talking points for me. Remains to be seen whether things change again if violence at protests ramps up.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 26 Jul 2020 07:11:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 285975 at http://dagblog.com I'd also like to respond to http://dagblog.com/comment/285915#comment-285915 <a id="comment-285915"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/285879#comment-285879">Here&#039;s my answer to you</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'd also like to respond to the meme out there, that the 1st Amendment Is bonding to the government, not between people, So if we dont like your view we just show you the door. Except we have kind of a tradition and expectation of messy free speech on the person-to-person level that presumes some listening, some respect. And if we give that up to shaming and cancelling, we lose the power that many credit for our Triumph over the Soviet Union - our ability to absorb and transmit And adapt to News &amp; real information rather than propaganda and yes-men answers, more than any spying our weapons systems.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 25 Jul 2020 03:03:05 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 285915 at http://dagblog.com