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This that I just ran across

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:26:21 +0000

In reply to And I was not talking about

This that I just ran across helps me clarify:

Napoleon, when reproached for his indifference to casualties, said: "One night in Paris will make up for all the losses".
US policies seem to follow this line. Even if 1000k die, there are millions outside the US who would be happy to come in. So the effect on labor will be nil.
— Branko Milanovic (@BrankoMilan) July 31, 2020

I am grateful to know that Dr. Feigl-Ding does not think about Herman Cain like Herman Cain thought about some others. Because his statement makes clear he is an ethical practitioner of medicine as well as an epidemiologist.

To this day, it really irks me tremendously that early on epidemiologists lied to the public about the need for masks in order to prevent more runs on N95 masks that were needed to keep the health care providers alive. I don't like that about the profession of epidemiology. And it's a serious conundrum for them, especially in this day and age with internet research available, it feeds conspiracy thinking even among smart people, who then don't trust them. I.E.RFK Jr. feeding the anti-vaxxer movement.

And I was not talking about

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 22:10:26 +0000

In reply to Of course if someone is in

And I was not talking about my own feelings or opinion, I was talking about an epidemiologist's.

Of course if someone is in

ocean-kat — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:34:37 +0000

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Of course if someone is in some sort of service profession they should try to serve everyone fairly and equally. But when I'm thinking about empathy I have little to spare for those who make dangerous choices and face the consequences from those choices. I feel the same amount of sympathy for Cain as I feel for those who die trying to climb the Himalayas. Cain is just one more person in the running for a Darwin Award.

I don't like any kind of

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 21:21:37 +0000

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I don't like any kind of doctors who decide care based on who they think is a bad person and who they think is a good person. And I especially wouldn't like any who decided based upon who they think is a stupid ill-informed person and who they think is a smart informed person.

I dont cry a lot for things

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:14:31 +0000

In reply to When he says "I cry as an

I dont cry a lot for things and people i dont know, tho occasionally something makes me well up. But probably not a "tough love" politician - that's a bit of an oxymoron.

When he says "I cry as an

NCD — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:38:54 +0000

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When he says "I cry as an epidemiologist" it sounds like it's the numbers.

He didn't say "I cry as a caring human being". The Trump movement is frankly no different than any national political Party that has led a nation to catastrophe. I cry for those who were informed and rational enough to oppose it, yet nevertheless suffered huge loss.

Amazing family! Straight out

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 06:28:07 +0000

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Amazing family! Straight out of Lake Woebegon

Trump:

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 05:51:22 +0000

In reply to Herman Cain's death is yet

Trump:

My friend Herman Cain, a Powerful Voice of Freedom and all that is good, passed away this morning. Herman had an incredible career and was adored by everyone that ever met him, especially me. He was a very special man, an American Patriot, and great friend. I just got off...
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2020

...the phone with his amazing wife Gloria, daughter, Melanie, and son Vincent to express my deepest condolences to the entire family. @FLOTUS Melania and I loved Herman Cain, a great man. Herman, Rest In Peace! pic.twitter.com/GNUf5jHjX0
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2020

WaPo and NYTimes obituaries:

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 04:52:58 +0000

In reply to Hermann Cain Has Died of COVID-19

WaPo and NYTimes obituaries:

Herman Cain, pizza executive and 2012 GOP presidential hopeful, dies at 74 of coronavirus https://t.co/nDe4jwId5f
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) July 31, 2020

Breaking News: Herman Cain has died at 74. A businessman and former presidential candidate, he had been hospitalized with the coronavirus. https://t.co/OZj91NyIHP
— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 30, 2020

I cry as an epidemiologist

artappraiser — Fri, 31 Jul 2020 04:40:26 +0000

In reply to Hermann Cain Has Died of COVID-19

I cry as an epidemiologist for Herman Cain—because he believed this all the way until he was infected. We should not have schadenfreude. I just cry for all the people we lost because they didn’t hear our alarms, and didn’t believe in science. RIP. #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/ibbL8XWrN6
— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) July 31, 2020

I especially like hearing this from him because I like seeing epidemiologists express feelings for individual death and suffering. Sometimes I do wonder whether some of them are just such cold scientists that they only see numbers and then at times in certain situations might be too willing to sacrifice small numbers for the good of bigger numbers.

They have had to deal with anti-vaxxers for quite some time, though, so it's probably different for them dealing with denial by people of what they say has to be done. Not just here, but like with the troubles getting conservative tribes around the world to get children vaccinated for polio. They are used to/learn about the psychology of denial of what they do.