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Lockdown in Victoria:

artappraiser — Wed, 05 Aug 2020 05:37:32 +0000

In reply to Thousands in Berlin protest Germany’s coronavirus measures.

Lockdown in Victoria:

BREAKING: Victoria has recorded 725 new cases of COVID-19 and 15 deaths, the worst day of the pandemic to date by both measures. A man in his 30s is among those who lost their lives. https://t.co/P3R3EGGAM8
— The Age (@theage) August 5, 2020

We have Norway next to Sweden

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 18:37:32 +0000

In reply to The opposite of dugnab is

We have Norway next to Sweden next to Germany, et al, all taking very different approaches, but largely accepting fuckups and successes, Sweden's deaths being the most problematic. But they're all competent efforts, within margins of choice. The UK Is just Incompetence.

The opposite of dugnab is

artappraiser — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 17:35:51 +0000

In reply to This is exactly what disturbs

The opposite of dugnab is tribalism without any common goal: my interests are more important than yours, fuck your burned down barn, my barn and land are more important than yours. Viruses have always loved that about us, that people won't stay home from work or play when they are sick.

This is exactly what disturbs

artappraiser — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 17:31:32 +0000

In reply to Dugnab: Norway's social pact

This is exactly what disturbs me the most about divisive protests at this time. Short term supportive peaceful marches were more than fine, they were non-threatening expressions of solidarity. But revolutionary tribal "us. vs. them" encampments are the last thing we need right now much less street attacks on popularly elected local governments, commonly owned property and street fighting.

While the overall attitude of the no mask protest in Germany contradicts "dugnab" it at least seemed a quite peaceful march, at least they weren't causing individual angry ruckuses like is common elsewhere. Feel the same way about pro-BLM, anti-police protesting.

Continuing to have even peaceful daytime marches after initial "message heard and received" though, is stretching it. Especially as there is the more powerful internet to agitate and organize for change.

I don't like the idea of employees we all pay for having to be pulled away to crowd control duties and cleanup when there's a pandemic going on. If it's important to do your protest during a pandemic you can at least do it in daytime and not make it a night after night noisy party or street fighting for months.

Still, no matter how it's done, the mere fact of doing it suggests your protesting takes priority over the pandemic that threatens us all.

Rather than blocking traffic how about getting into expediting essential services everyone needs? It's really that simple. Are the current protesters helping out at food banks the rest of the time?

Dugnab: Norway's social pact

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 15:26:26 +0000

In reply to Thousands in Berlin protest Germany’s coronavirus measures.

Dugnab: Norway's social pact

https://blog.usejournal.com/one-word-spared-norway-from-covid-19-disaste...

"Thousands of covidiots

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:49:34 +0000

In reply to A big number for super

"Thousands of covidiots celebrate themselves in Berlin as the 'second wave' with no distancing, no masks," she said. "They are not only jeopardizing our health, they are jeopardizing our achievements against the pandemic and the revival of the economy, education, and society."

Competing protests

DW's correspondent Leonie von Hammerstein noted that a counterprotest took place, with many citizens angry at those wanting to break the rules.

"The difference is the counterprotesters are wearing face masks, are keeping the [correct] social distance. Whereas the other protesters are not, they have been shouting 'the pandemic never happened.'

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-45-officers-injured-at-berlin-rally-against-coronavirus-curbs/a-54402885

A big number for super

artappraiser — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:09:43 +0000

In reply to 17k's tiny for Berlin

A big number for super spreading, though, certainly beats Trump Tulsa rally.

17k's tiny for Berlin

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 10:29:00 +0000

In reply to Thousands in Berlin protest Germany’s coronavirus measures.

17k's tiny for Berlin

3.8m population + Potsdam, etc

Berlin. Anti-lockdown Protest

artappraiser — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 03:55:00 +0000

In reply to Thousands in Berlin protest Germany’s coronavirus measures.

Berlin. Anti-lockdown Protest. pic.twitter.com/U7QEMUeAmy
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