dagblog - Comments for "Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure" http://dagblog.com/link/abolish-police-those-who-survived-chaos-seattle-aren-t-so-sure-32051 Comments for "Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure" en Progressives think that http://dagblog.com/comment/286772#comment-286772 <a id="comment-286772"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/abolish-police-those-who-survived-chaos-seattle-aren-t-so-sure-32051">Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Progressives think that cutting the salaries of public servants will improve services now? <a href="https://t.co/ZrdZDhi81U">https://t.co/ZrdZDhi81U</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1292630965269999618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 10 Aug 2020 01:27:47 +0000 artappraiser comment 286772 at http://dagblog.com More I think of it, other http://dagblog.com/comment/286758#comment-286758 <a id="comment-286758"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/286753#comment-286753">Except from Nellie Bowes&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">More I think of it, other than the election of Donald Trump to the presidency, which is almost certainly the dumbest American thing that has happened in my lifetime, CHAZ/CHOP being allowed to happen for a month is up there as one of the absolute dumbest things I can imagine. <a href="https://t.co/83v5uBmg3a">https://t.co/83v5uBmg3a</a></p> — Thomas Chatterton Williams (@thomaschattwill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1292156606118006784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:22:10 +0000 artappraiser comment 286758 at http://dagblog.com in the second video, the http://dagblog.com/comment/286755#comment-286755 <a id="comment-286755"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/286754#comment-286754">This driver is a black women,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>in the second video, the protesters are doing a mild variation of Khmer Rouge re-education camps as, using a megaphone, they accost diners at restaurant tables on the street and ask them to verify their allegiance to black people with a chant</p> <p>Edit to add: forced solidarity at first dinner out for the first time in months, that will really get the old economy going again, eh?</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:54:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 286755 at http://dagblog.com 65,881 have signed a petition http://dagblog.com/comment/286757#comment-286757 <a id="comment-286757"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/abolish-police-those-who-survived-chaos-seattle-aren-t-so-sure-32051">Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.change.org/p/santa-monica-city-council-remove-santa-monica-police-chief-cynthia-renaud-immediately?source_location=topic_page">65,881 have signed a petition to remove the Santa Monica, CA Police Chief immediately.</a> Not because of what might initially presume. BECAUSE SHE DID NOT PROTECT THEIR CITY AND THEIR PROPERTY FROM PROTESTERS, allows rampant vagrancy and they are also experiencing a record # of burglaries and other crimes.</p> <p><strong>(Google: Population</strong> <strong>Santa Monica </strong>Total <strong>Population</strong>:87,610)</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:39:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 286757 at http://dagblog.com This driver is a black women, http://dagblog.com/comment/286754#comment-286754 <a id="comment-286754"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/abolish-police-those-who-survived-chaos-seattle-aren-t-so-sure-32051">Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This driver is a black woman, she just wants to be able to drive on the bridge, protesters detain her, she gets angry and uses the n word, the white women protesters are the angriest in return at her:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>"I'm about to shoot this n****r," said an angry driver four times tonight on the Key Bridge between DC and Virginia after being blocked by <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DefundThePolice?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DefundThePolice</a> protesters.<br /><br /> During the argument, I saw no gun.<br /><br /> She spit at the crowd, who threw two water bottles at her as she drove off. <a href="https://t.co/q9rvtfhn6u">pic.twitter.com/q9rvtfhn6u</a></p> — Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1292296670387089414?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> <p>the They/Them Collective in D.C., Saturday "Fuck the Police" protest in D.C. </p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>As noted earlier, watch the livestream for the full context of every shot.<br /><br /> Here's the full HD summary of tonight's "Fuck the Police" march in DC. As always, all footage available to license.<a href="https://t.co/01WGrwSThV">https://t.co/01WGrwSThV</a></p> — Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1292343501049520129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 9, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:20:30 +0000 artappraiser comment 286754 at http://dagblog.com Except from Nellie Bowes' http://dagblog.com/comment/286753#comment-286753 <a id="comment-286753"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/abolish-police-those-who-survived-chaos-seattle-aren-t-so-sure-32051">Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Except from Nellie Bowes' piece on Seattle:</p> <blockquote> <p>When a tall man in a trench coat and hiking boots walked over to question Mr. Khan, the man spread his coat open, revealing several pistols on harnesses around his chest and waist. He presented a badge on a lanyard that read “Black Lives Matter Community Patrol.”</p> <figure class="image" style="float:left"><img alt="" height="225" src="https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/09/03/business/03chaz5-alt/merlin_174979017_8235bff0-7bf8-4b64-88f1-f84a4f3888d5-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&amp;auto=webp" width="300" /><figcaption>Rick Hearns displays two handguns while<br /> patrolling Capitol Hill as a private security guard.<br /> His badge reads “Black Lives Matter Community<br /> Patrol.” Credit: Grant Hindsley for NYTimes.</figcaption></figure><p>His name is Rick Hearns and he identified himself as a longtime security guard and mover who is now a Black Lives Matter community guard, in charge of several others. Local merchants pay for his protection, he said as he handed out his business card. (Mr. Khan said he and his neighbors are now paying thousands of dollars a month for protection from Iconic Global, a Washington State-based private security contractor.)</p> <p>Mr. Hearns has had bad experiences with the police in his own life. He says he wants police reform, but he was appalled by the violent tactics and rhetoric he witnessed during the occupation.</p> <p>He blamed the destruction and looting on “opportunists,” but also said that much of the damage on Capitol Hill came from a distinct contingent of violent, armed white activists. <span style="font-size:18px">“It’s antifa,” he said. “They don’t want to see the progress we’ve made. They want chaos.”</span></p> <p>Many of the business owners on Capitol Hill agreed: Much of the violence they saw and the intimidation of their patrons came from a group these business owners identified as antifa, which they distinguished from the Black Lives Matter movement. “<span style="font-size:18px">The idea of taking up the Black movement and turning it into a white occupation, it’s white privilege in its finest definition,” Mr. Khan said. “And that’s what they did.”</span></p> <p>Antifa, which stands for anti-fascist, is <u>a <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-antifa-trump.html">radical, leaderless leftist political movement</a></u> that uses <a href="https://newrepublic.com/article/154110/antifa-arming-trump-crackdown"><u>armed, violent protest</u></a> as a method to create what supporters say is a more just and equitable country. They have <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-rise-of-the-violent-left/534192/"><u>a strong presence in the Pacific Northwest</u></a>, including the current protests in Portland. </p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 Aug 2020 09:58:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 286753 at http://dagblog.com Meanwhile, here's reality in http://dagblog.com/comment/286751#comment-286751 <a id="comment-286751"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/286750#comment-286750">The Onion:</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Meanwhile, here's reality in Minneapolis:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">NEW: What do you do when the police mistreat you but your neighborhood also has high crime? It’s a dilemma tugging at many residents on Minneapolis’s predominantly Black North Side, who fear the police, but also fear what might happen if they’re defunded. <a href="https://t.co/OikhtFCsZS">https://t.co/OikhtFCsZS</a></p> — John Eligon (@jeligon) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeligon/status/1290638525159940096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:49:18 +0000 artappraiser comment 286751 at http://dagblog.com The Onion: http://dagblog.com/comment/286750#comment-286750 <a id="comment-286750"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/abolish-police-those-who-survived-chaos-seattle-aren-t-so-sure-32051">Abolish the Police? Those Who Survived the Chaos in Seattle Aren’t So Sure</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The Onion:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Minneapolis Announces Plan To Replace Police Officers With Thousands Of Heavily Armed Social Workers <a href="https://t.co/PmEwCMQYHb">https://t.co/PmEwCMQYHb</a> <a href="https://t.co/Dc9OGdFiTR">pic.twitter.com/Dc9OGdFiTR</a></p> — The Onion (@TheOnion) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1291419025327693825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:43:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 286750 at http://dagblog.com