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I am a little resentful

artappraiser — Sat, 22 Aug 2020 04:21:18 +0000

In reply to You know, that's rich coming

I am a little resentful myself, mad at myself, that I spent so much time reading about protests that I find now few support their goals. Ric rolled again by "buzz".. I think I'll try harder sticking with reality like homicide newsand less listening to single internet pseudonyms and young protesters bored of covid isolation who claim to understand what "the black community".wants. Actually, I don't think a "black community" exists, never did, comes from evidence in my own family about how different each person of color thinks and their different lifestyles as well.

You know, that's rich coming

artappraiser — Sat, 22 Aug 2020 04:13:33 +0000

In reply to People at dagblog are aware

You know, that's rich coming from you, that it's as boring as the weather report to read the stories of homicide victims. I thought the slogans were Black Lives Matter and remember their name. Unfair death or maiming only interests you if if it's the result of racism, is that it? So it's not really about black lives for you at all. I've lost more than a few before retirement age and I know dead as dead no matter which way it happened. A lot more are dying from gun crime than from police and this spiking of violent crime is horrific. It frightens people (like little girls) as much or more than racism does. How can you, really, say it's like the weather, kind of sickening.

An here's a link to the big

artappraiser — Sat, 22 Aug 2020 04:01:41 +0000

In reply to I doubt that any one here

And here's a link to the big Gallup poll of 36,000 from the end of June, first week of July with huge approval for keeping police same or increasing: 81% of blacks. Just ran across it for the first time tonight. I put the link there so I could find it more easily.

Like I said, I'm good

rmrd0000 — Sat, 22 Aug 2020 01:49:40 +0000

In reply to Making it simple, like it or

Like I said, I'm good

While the recommendations say nothing of defunding police, these goals are similar to some of the stated aims of the defunding movement, which include helping communities through assistance aside from police presence. They call for “[f]ederal funding to create a civilian corps of unarmed first responders such as social workers, EMTs, and trained mental health professionals, who can handle nonviolent emergencies

Edit to add

I. Have. No. Problem. With. The. Way. Biden. Frames, The. Issue.

And I betcha there's several

artappraiser — Sat, 22 Aug 2020 01:28:23 +0000

In reply to Making it simple, like it or

And I betcha there's several black Dem mayors who are going to be plenty grateful for those talking points! He's got their back. Makes it much easier to tell diehard protesters to go the fuck home and no you can't protest in front of my house ever fucking night til the revolution comes.

Making it simple, like it or

artappraiser — Sat, 22 Aug 2020 01:24:06 +0000

In reply to You are all for be a loyal

Making it simple, like it or not, here's the talking points on police for any loyal Biden supporter, set to be broadcast on ABC national TV this Sunday evening

NEW: Biden to @ABC’s Robin Roberts: 'I don’t want to defund' the police, but Trump doeshttps://t.co/9hRrYqoz7G
— Will Steakin (@wsteaks) August 21, 2020

You are free to make your

rmrd0000 — Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:24:18 +0000

In reply to I'd take that further. More

You are free to make your comments about BLM.

As noted above, Biden's approach to policing is in line with some of what BLM desires.

Biden talks about funds to

rmrd0000 — Fri, 21 Aug 2020 23:18:16 +0000

In reply to You are all for be a loyal

Biden talks about funds to add social workers and psychologists. I have no problem with that program. Biden talks about creating a task force.

But the task force’s recommendations for the Democratic platform do not mention defunding police, and do not talk about abolishing police as Trump also asserted. Further, Biden's campaign has said the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee does not support the "defund" movement.

However, Biden has voiced support for shifting some funding away from the police.

When asked during a Now This interview with activist Ady Barkan if he agrees “that we can redirect some of the [police] funding,” Biden responded, “Yes, absolutely.”

Further, the charter in question mentions investing in partnerships with non-police professionals to address certain situations.

“Democrats will reinvigorate community policing approaches, so officers on the beat better serve the neighborhoods they work in, and make smart investments to incentivize departments to build effective partnerships with social workers and mental health and substance use counselors to help respond to frontline public health challenges,” the document says.

While the recommendations say nothing of defunding police, these goals are similar to some of the stated aims of the defunding movement, which include helping communities through assistance aside from police presence. They call for “[f]ederal funding to create a civilian corps of unarmed first responders such as social workers, EMTs, and trained mental health professionals, who can handle nonviolent emergencies[.]”

The idea of taking some police funding – but not all of it – and redistributing it elsewhere is consistent with the concept put forth by Black Lives Matter Managing Director Kailee Scales

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-has-called-to-redirect-funding-from-police-but-stopped-short-of-defund-embrace

You are all for be a loyal

artappraiser — Fri, 21 Aug 2020 22:54:37 +0000

In reply to The crime rate is spiking

You are all for being a loyal Dem when it suits you but when it doesn't you just ignore it.

Biden doesn't agree with you AT ALL, he wants to get them MORE Federal money to grow in the right direction to increase the money that Trump took away if at all possible. He wants those social workers but he wants them working with and under the the P.D.

Biden says he supports additional funding for the police

By Jonathan Easley @ TheHill.com 08/05/20 05:49 PM EDT

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said Wednesday that he wants to “get police more money” to handle the “god-awful problems” they face in the line of duty.

Biden addressed calls to defund the police while speaking at a virtual fundraiser hosted by Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms (D).

"I don't want to defund police," Biden said. "I want to get police more money in order to deal with the things they badly need, from making sure they have access to community policing, that they have also in the departments social workers, psychologists, people who in fact can handle those god-awful problems that a cop has to have four degrees to handle."

[....]

Biden on Wednesday said that in his first 100 days in office he’d create a national police oversight commission with civil rights leaders, police officers, police chiefs and other criminal justice experts to consider police reforms, including hiring, training and de-escalation practices.

"Reform means, at least the beginning, banning chokeholds, stopping transferring military weapons of war to the police departments, creating a model use of force standard and holding all police to the high standard," Biden said.

To do this you need to:

to come from an attitude like he does, that most police are good and want to do good
to get Congress to agree to spend a lot of money on it
stop all fucking general protesting against "police", all police, like they are the enemy, they aren't in Joe's world, they are an essential part of rule of law.ensuring a democracy works. protesting against specific individual cases of police doing something wrong and not being adequately prosecuted is a different thing, they should be treated like a totally different thing, night and day.

I'd take that further. More

artappraiser — Fri, 21 Aug 2020 22:30:20 +0000

In reply to I doubt that any one here

I'd take that further. More and more it seems to me that actual registered voters in areas affected by police and crime issues don't differ that much by race but they realize that there is not enough money for everything they think would help. And protesters are not longtime registered voters who actually might answer pollsters. And national polls don't mean shit in this context. Here for example is where George Floyd was murdered, after people have had time to think, August10-12

And the Black Lives Matter movement, small m, has little to do with the policing issue anymore, it has been hijacked by social and racial justice general movements allover the world, and is anti-authoritarian anarchist- libertarian in some aspects, tear down society by agitating authorities, build it allover again. In that context picking on blue-run cities and it falls all the faster because the jack booted thugs win and then everyone joins the revolution, see? It's not just here, same shit going on with a lot of sympathizers allover the world.

They are just not people who need jobs and a normal life and money to live on. They are professional protesters and revolutionaries, the movers and shakers of the woke-i-tude, dude. Helps to have parents or backers with money, though. If not, you can try pestering charitable foundations enough, you guilt them into giving you some for your organization.

These are mostly not normal people protesting about police anymore. Everyone normal can see for themselves that the message got sent, now's the what to do about it part.

Yes, a national majority now agrees "black lives matter" UNCAPITALIZED, they are upset when they see extreme police brutalized, they don't like profiling by race, that doesn't mean they go along with all this other shit.