dagblog - Comments for ""while I will be a Democratic candidate, I will be an American president""

Hillary was skewered for it

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 06:17:15 +0000

Hillary was skewered for it too - wandering off the reservation, stay in your lane, stop being a right-centrist. The media even helped. Mention the White majority and you're a racist.

Hmmm, but I was told on

artappraiser — Thu, 15 Oct 2020 05:35:17 +0000

In reply to "while I will be a Democratic candidate, I will be an American president"

Hmmm, but I was told on Dagblog that these people either did not exist or one should not court their vote because they were all racists and weren't needed to win:

Now, he is launching direct appeals to working-class Whites, particularly those who voted for President Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012 but shifted to Trump in 2016. “A lot of White working-class Democrats thought we forgot them and didn’t pay attention,” Biden told reporters during a visit to Pennsylvania this month. “I want them to know . . . I get it. I get their sense of being left behind.”

from E. J. Dionne @ WashingtonPost.com, Oct. 14 How Joe Biden — yes, Joe Biden — could revolutionize American politics

Obama:

artappraiser — Fri, 09 Oct 2020 04:50:56 +0000

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Obama:

And make sure you watch his full speech—one of the best I've seen Joe give: https://t.co/O6j0JdscTR
— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) October 8, 2020

As you pointed out many times

ocean-kat — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 05:13:39 +0000

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As you pointed out many times that 40ish% of Trump's base that stuck to him no matter what aren't going away. They'll be there after Biden is elected. And the coalition that elected him will shatter and be at each others throats the second he's sworn in. There will be no unity, not even among the democrats and certainly no bipartisanship at all. At best that's a good speech for the fools and the marks to get out the vote. Nothing more.

Partisans and tribalists

artappraiser — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 04:50:29 +0000

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Partisans and tribalists gonna be sad when they don't have Trump to kick around anymore (Biden's serious, not joking, warns over and over, this time even used the words "bipartisan" and "common good", said people tell him belieif in bipartisanship is old-fashioned, he says they're wrong)

Biden's Gettysburg speech calls for national unity, AP, Oct. 6

except "Park Avenue" will get

artappraiser — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 19:02:44 +0000

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except "Park Avenue" will get the least attention:

The lesson here is Biden should keep saying the Park Avenue thing, rare example of an economic message that TV news thinks is interesting https://t.co/0PMxkFz5CJ
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 18, 2020

It's certainly an attention getter, as "Park Avenue" is trending on Twitter

I think for the most part

artappraiser — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 18:03:47 +0000

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I think for the most part this is right, the concentrated power of business is too strong right now for Democrats to do much next year on social democracy. However, they could really go off the rails on culture war policy that business doesn't care about. We'll see anyway. https://t.co/EfDa6m6wfz
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) September 18, 2020

Frank Rich, no slouch at

artappraiser — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:43:38 +0000

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Frank Rich, no slouch at rating & analyzing performances for the American public, lotta experience:

Trump's incessant lowering of expectations about “Sleepy Joe” in anticipation (fear?) of the first debate is by far the greatest donation to the Biden campaign. https://t.co/K1eIIEikoW
— Frank Rich (@frankrichny) September 18, 2020

here we go, Biden tonight on

artappraiser — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:36:48 +0000

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here we go, Biden tonight on "WHITE PRIVILEGE"

Biden took a question tailor-made to drive a wedge between black & white working-class voters, and turned it into a unifying moment, without falling into the trap of equating the experience of race prejudice with class prejudice.

This is a master class in navigating divides. https://t.co/4mVnNahH3w
— Bill Scher (@billscher) September 18, 2020

Thought about your question

artappraiser — Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:44:00 +0000

In reply to As one of your posts noted,

Thought about your question and his. They are professionals that were always cynical about what they do, this in itself makes them able to be funny, to have a great sense of humor, which in turn helps them do "common sense".

While right wing Republican nut cases are famously intolerant and self-righteous with no sense of humor, so are self-righteous liberals, especially poltically correct ones. Most classic liberal Dem political operatives do the snowflake thing and are very earnest inspirational, no sense of humor, passionate saviors of the common man.

Classic Reaganite type Republicans are cynical about this, nothing cracks them up so much as the joke about someone from the government coming to your business and saying they are there to help. They also are very practiced at personal attack about hypocrisy in personal lives.

DLC tried to address the earnest liberal bureaucrat snowflake thing. Carville and Begala were new and fresh and not like past operatives, they had a sense of humor and were not irony impaired.

Dick Morris was cynicism par excellence for a while there. He brought the knowledge of the Republican operative ways over to the DLC. But DNC just went back to the earnest self-righteous snowflake thing during Bush and Obama years. (Bush had cynical sense of humor! Party boy.)

I mean, David Axelrod, for example, as much as he knows about demographics, he's not cynical, he's very earnest. Not sarcastic. Compare the dry wit of Steve Schmidt....which is not the elitist kind but picks on foibles that common sense people see.

They are just not bureaucratic people, they are anti-bureaucrat, and that helps them appeal to the man/woman on the street. Classic Dems want big government, so that puts them in a bind about appealing to most people's dislike of bureaucrats?