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One way that Lancaster, PA is

artappraiser — Wed, 16 Sep 2020 02:21:35 +0000

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One way that Lancaster, PA is not like Portand, OR

Lancaster protesters held on whopping $1 million bail after alleged riots https://t.co/bXauh5NXKe pic.twitter.com/dQMbq8jGUq
— New York Post (@nypost) September 15, 2020

And then there's the one

artappraiser — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 05:59:00 +0000

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And then there's the one where the London police blatantly executed a guy by gunshot, who had used two knives as weapons to kill two and wound many others, even though he had already been pinned on the ground by others using a fire extinguisher and narwahl tusk, because he was clearly mad crazy, not your average perp and one didn't know WTF he would do next to hurt someone.

Make a split second decision. In his shoes. The guy could just change his mind all of a sudden, sit down and put his hands up, everything's possible. Do you feel lucky? ("punk" - PP)

Video from the U.K. of police

rmrd0000 — Tue, 15 Sep 2020 00:48:51 +0000

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Video from the U.K. of police disarming a man with a machete without a shot being fired

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzPj_IaMzY

It appears to me after

artappraiser — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 23:40:31 +0000

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It appears to me after studying numerous similar situations now that according to many activists, the answer to your question is to permit demonstrators to gather without a permit soon after the incident in order to damage government property, start some fires, and obstruct public passages and to allow all of this without reacting to what demonstrators are doing

[....] Lancaster police said they arrested eight individuals early Monday after demonstrators caused damage to the police station, a parked vehicle and a US Post Office building. Demonstrators also piled street signs, trash cans and other items into an intersection, at one point starting a dumpster fire, according to police.

Those arrested received charges including arson, institutional vandalism, riot, failure to disperse and obstructing highways and other public passages, police said.

Detectives are reviewing several hours of online video as well as surveillance in an effort to identify additional suspects, police later said.

Lancaster police said that more than 100 protesters had gathered on an access ramp outside the police station. Police also said they used a "public address system to provide several warnings that if the group did not move from the ramp that chemical munitions would be deployed." The department said the group failed to follow instructions and that officers used chemical agents and pepper spray to disperse the crowd [....]

from CNN

Strikes me that this is similar to the Catholic idea of penance, you know? Catholics also used to have indulgences for sale, might benefit activists to look into that idea as well.

Just forget that nonviolent theory thing, not an answer, doesn't allow any symbolic tit for tat. The responsible government has to accept some immediate suffering somehow or it's not resolved. Maybe even the community at large must do the same.

I bet a social worker would!

artappraiser — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 23:38:34 +0000

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I bet a social worker would!

More seriously, seems like there's been several cases now where we are running into the problem of the de-institutionalization of people that used to be institutionalized in places where weapons were not as easily available unless you whittled them from a piece of metal you found.

That happened as it was supposed to be more humane.

But unfortunately, it hasn't always ended up as very humane for the families of the afflicted, nor for in certain instances, fellow wandering and homeless people, nor for the victims of some who had access to more lethal weaponry, such as schoolchildren, congresspersons, former coworkers...

He should have at least

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 22:57:40 +0000

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He should have at least ascertained whether it was serrated or not, or if had any rust for tetanus - otherwise knife sounds usually heal quickly - ask any aficionado of mumbley peg.

I, and I'm sure all of us,

ocean-kat — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 22:38:26 +0000

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I, and I'm sure all of us, have cut our selves with a knife while preparing supper. This gives us some idea of how relatively harmless knives are. Clearly the cop reacted out of irrational hysteria.

Once again, what are police

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 22:00:58 +0000

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Once again, what are police supposed to do?

Protest erupts in Lancaster,

artappraiser — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:28:53 +0000

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Protest erupts in Lancaster, Pa. after police fatally shoot man carrying knife https://t.co/LxBCIkjfmS pic.twitter.com/JFIkmFhRMt
— The Hill (@thehill) September 14, 2020

Here is the full bodycam

artappraiser — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 07:22:00 +0000

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Here is the full bodycam footage

This is the bodycam footage of the officer-involved shooting in Lancaster, PA that Black Lives Matter is rioting over. The perpetrator charged at the police officer with a knife over his head with clear intent to strike. pic.twitter.com/xD72TweQK4
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 14, 2020

and here is the Lancaster Co. D.A.'s statement

[ Try this link instead: https://lancaster.crimewatchpa.com/lbop/19659/post/officer-involved-shoo... ]