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No surprises here. The damage

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:25:41 +0000

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No surprises here. The damage is done. https://t.co/DXG0UE9yAa
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) September 30, 2020

It's always the knee-jerk narcissism first and foremost, whoever supports him he doesn't want to dis.

And that's why he tries to walk things back like this, too, to keep as many that were fans that might be offended.

It's always to keep as large of a ratings audience as possible, not ideological.

This is why he still turns around and tries to woo African-American conservatives too.

So to the question of is he racist or is he a believer in white supremacy, to just say yes is not fulling understanding what he does. He is neither really, he's a believer in Trump supremacy, that he's smarter and better than anyone else and deserves adoration for that reason.

So any group that offers the adoration, he doesn't want to lose them. But he also doesn't want to turn off another supporting group that might not like another one. The are all fine people!

FiveThirtyEight/Ipsos poll:

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:27:25 +0000

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FiveThirtyEight/Ipsos poll:

Our post-debate poll with Ipsos is out, and it finds voters thought Biden did well and Trump did poorly. Also hints of a *bit* of topline movement toward Biden, though most voters stuck with their initial preferences.https://t.co/ZqIQTrcXWu
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 30, 2020

Disheartening, I know, that we still have such a large percentage of politically-interested people who think that a performance like Trump's last night is "winning".

But strikes me-DOH-that many of us had been in denial about them, as when before Trump came along, we were interacting with them on the internets, we knew they were there the whole time, it's just we fled to places where a moderator (or social media tools) kept the bullies away from us!

As far as the election is concerned, it was never required that a lot of people change their minds (after all, Hillary won the majority vote); with the Electoral College situation, it's those very few swings in the very few swing states that are always the problem.

I was sleeping through the

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 05:23:07 +0000

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I was sleeping through the debate. But worth noting that Trump's rat-fucker has close ties to the Proud Boys and that rat-fucker arranged voter intimidation events in swing states in 2016.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) September 30, 2020

NYTimes is being more

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 05:16:14 +0000

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NYTimes is being more critical of Trump than WaPo with their headlines on the debate:

Here are the Wednesday front pages of The New York Times and The Washington Post. pic.twitter.com/QMYeapaJl0
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) September 30, 2020

Mary Trump:

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 05:11:03 +0000

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Mary Trump:

The media need to stop giving Donald the benefit of the doubt. His debate performance was a grotesque combination of lies, racism, breathtaking callousness, and threats against our democracy.#Resist #VOTE #BidenHarris2020
— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) September 30, 2020

He is being allowed, on national television, to sow uncertainty about the upcoming election. Everything he just said is a lie. Everything. He is the fraud.
— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) September 30, 2020

Interrupting Vice President Biden's comments about his son Beau to pivot to lies about Hunter Biden should alone totally disqualify Donald. What a disgrace. What a traitor.
— Mary L Trump (@MaryLTrump) September 30, 2020

Drudge right now: pic.twitter

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 04:59:29 +0000

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Drudge right now: pic.twitter.com/EnVWUsyMeO
— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) September 30, 2020

Bill Kristol appalled:

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 04:46:13 +0000

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Bill Kristol appalled:

The debate “was a disgrace because of the behavior of one man, Donald Trump. The interrupting and the bullying, the absence of both decency and dignity— gave the affair the rare and sickening character of a national humiliation.” ⁦@BillKristol⁩ https://t.co/Ml0eE1ICry
— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) September 30, 2020

Rare instance of Nate Silver

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 04:38:02 +0000

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Rare instance of Nate Silver waxing macro:

Just in case this isn't clear enough yet, I think there's likely to be a fairly trade-off between the chance that Trump can win the election legitimately, and the degree to which he tries to pull from the authoritarian playbook by seeking to undermine the election.
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 30, 2020

More from Luntz's focus group

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 04:34:44 +0000

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More from Luntz's focus group of 16 undecideds @ Vox:

Frank Luntz asked his focus group to describe each candidate's debate performance in one word or phrase and, wellhttps://t.co/Y9rTc63ync pic.twitter.com/RH0W7mPzl6
— Andrew Prokop (@awprokop) September 30, 2020

Good pivot to covid, covid,

artappraiser — Wed, 30 Sep 2020 04:30:05 +0000

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Good pivot to covid, covid, covid, redirect from the culture wars:

Joe Biden cited a horrific statistic to argue that President Trump has not been good for Black Americans: 1 in 1,000 Black Americans have died in the Covid-19 pandemic.

The most remarkable thing about Biden’s statement? It was true. https://t.co/wWorg7H1bi #Debates2020 pic.twitter.com/sLvTo5fJeh
— Vox (@voxdotcom) September 30, 2020