dagblog - Comments for "On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate" http://dagblog.com/link/trail-how-trump-lost-law-and-order-debate-32729 Comments for "On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate" en which reminded me of this, http://dagblog.com/comment/291210#comment-291210 <a id="comment-291210"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291209#comment-291209">Makes me think of how good</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>which reminded me of this, went back and found it, from his first Town Hall in mid September-lots of experience navigating the wedge issue game:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Biden took a question tailor-made to drive a wedge between black &amp; white working-class voters, and turned it into a unifying moment, without falling into the trap of equating the experience of race prejudice with class prejudice.<br /><br /> This is a master class in navigating divides. <a href="https://t.co/4mVnNahH3w">https://t.co/4mVnNahH3w</a></p> — Bill Scher (@billscher) <a href="https://twitter.com/billscher/status/1306784810279591940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> <p>While Trump is the opposite, he riles up wedge issues (i.e. "culture wars") just for personal attention, Trump as a narcissist who is interested in "ratings" above all, has become an expert at that over the years.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:49:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 291210 at http://dagblog.com Makes me think of how good http://dagblog.com/comment/291209#comment-291209 <a id="comment-291209"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trail-how-trump-lost-law-and-order-debate-32729">On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Makes me think of how good Biden is at traversing the divide on this issue, been doing it all along for years:</p> <p><a href="https://twitter.com/i/events/1317151689971937280">There is no record of Joe Biden using the term 'super predator,' NBC News and FactCheck.org report</a></p> <p><em>Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has never publicly used the term "super predator," according to <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/i/events/FactCheck.org" rel=" noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" title="FactCheck.org">FactCheck.org</a> and NBC News. The term, which specifically refers to crime theory related to inner city youth, was famously uttered by Hillary Clinton — not Joe Biden — according to NBC News, <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/i/events/FactCheck.org" rel=" noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" title="FactCheck.org">FactCheck.org</a> and other fact-checkers.</em></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:41:20 +0000 artappraiser comment 291209 at http://dagblog.com Trump losing all the debates http://dagblog.com/comment/291202#comment-291202 <a id="comment-291202"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trail-how-trump-lost-law-and-order-debate-32729">On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Trump losing all the debates</p> <p><a href="https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/the-race-today/">https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/the-race-today/</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Oct 2020 10:26:36 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 291202 at http://dagblog.com I know this topic is supposed http://dagblog.com/comment/291178#comment-291178 <a id="comment-291178"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trail-how-trump-lost-law-and-order-debate-32729">On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I know this topic is supposed to be about people behaving nicely or badly in public spaces but another reason the GOP team is failing at the law and order meme is the explosion of indictments coming out in a very conservative DOJ. Rep. Himes explains it well:</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed" height="315px" width="560px"><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Y88GVEUp4_A" width="560px"></iframe></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:15:16 +0000 moat comment 291178 at http://dagblog.com How Trump list women's vote http://dagblog.com/comment/291149#comment-291149 <a id="comment-291149"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trail-how-trump-lost-law-and-order-debate-32729">On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>How Trump list women's vote</p> <p><a href="https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/if-you-want-to-know-why-women-hate-him/">https://digbysblog.net/2020/10/if-you-want-to-know-why-women-hate-him/</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 15 Oct 2020 03:31:33 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 291149 at http://dagblog.com This is all about Trump's http://dagblog.com/comment/291134#comment-291134 <a id="comment-291134"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trail-how-trump-lost-law-and-order-debate-32729">On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This is all about Trump's temperament </p> <blockquote> <p>In a <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/10/PP_2020.10.09_Election-and-Voter-Attitudes_TOPLINE.pdf">Pew poll released this week</a>, 49 percent of respondents said they were very or somewhat confident Biden could effectively handle law enforcement and criminal justice issues; 44 percent were confident in Trump’s ability to do so.</p> <p>But perhaps most damningly, 58 percent of Americans <a href="https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/10/Fox_October-3-6-2020_Complete_National_Topline_October-7-Release-1.pdf">surveyed by Fox News</a> said they thought the way Trump talks about racial inequality and the police was actually leading to an increase in acts of violence. Just 38 percent said the same of the former vice president.</p> <p>Biden, in short, is beating Trump on one of the key issues on which Trump wanted to base his reelection campaign.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/520860-on-the-trail-how-trump-lost-the-law-and-order-debate#.X4ZTDu8mWqI.twitter">https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/520860-on-the-trail-how-trump-lost-the-law-and-order-debate#.X4ZTDu8mWqI.twitter</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Biden's criteria for police funding</p> <blockquote> <p>In his interview with Barkan, Biden does answer “yes” to redirecting some funding, but then changes the topic from policing to prison reform. The former vice president says the prison system “should be a rehabilitation system, not a punishment system,” and that the formerly incarcerated should be given the same rights and be entitled to the same federal programs as Americans who have never gone to prison.</p> <p>Biden’s “Yes, absolutely” response in this interview does not reflect his campaign’s stance on police reform. Available <a href="https://joebiden.com/justice/">joebiden.com/justice/</a> , his platform for criminal justice reform promises to “reinvigorate community-oriented policing” by strengthening the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program, “which authorized funding both for the hiring of additional police officers and for training on how to undertake a community policing approach.” Biden intends to “reinvigorate” the program with a $300-million investment, contingent on officers mirroring the diversity of their communities. </p> <p>In an interview with Norah O’Donnell (  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpXsD74CPQA">here</a>  ) aired by CBS just three days before the NowThis clip was published, Biden said, “I don’t support defunding the police… I support conditioning federal aid to police, based on whether or not they meet certain basic standards of decency and honorableness.”</p> </blockquote> <p><br /><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-misleading-biden-ad-defund/fact-check-political-ad-saying-biden-wants-to-defund-the-police-is-misleading-idUSKCN252248">https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-misleading-biden-ad-defund/fact-check-political-ad-saying-biden-wants-to-defund-the-police-is-misleading-idUSKCN252248</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:47:22 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 291134 at http://dagblog.com third time cross-linking it, http://dagblog.com/comment/291123#comment-291123 <a id="comment-291123"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/trail-how-trump-lost-law-and-order-debate-32729">On The Trail: How Trump lost the law and order debate</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>third time cross-linking it, it's sounding more correct all the time</p> <p><a href="http://dagblog.com/link/biden-nbc-town-hall-oct-5-policing-32634"><u>Joe Biden, Oct. 5: they need more money, not less, they need increased budgets</u></a></p> <p>and protesters calling for defunding look more incorrect all the time, not to mention counterproductive in the extreme in some cases.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 14 Oct 2020 07:09:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 291123 at http://dagblog.com