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Seth Abramson retweeted AP

artappraiser — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:45:49 +0000

Seth Abramson retweeted AP article on suburban women vote:

President Trump has tried to appeal to “the suburban housewives of America,” as he called them. There’s no sign it’s working.

Read more in the #AmericaDisrupted series on how suburban women are leading a charge against the presidenthttps://t.co/ClmisDjY4U
— The Associated Press (@AP) October 19, 2020

More experienced focus

artappraiser — Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:46:45 +0000

In reply to Why These Voters Rejected Hillary Clinton but Are Backing Joe Biden

More experienced focus grouper tells:

"The majority of 2016 Trump voters—despite a mismanaged pandemic, widespread economic fallout, a racial crisis exacerbated by divisive rhetoric, and a debate meltdown—plan to back Trump a second time."

Read @SarahLongwell25 to understand why:https://t.co/lllCUsBc05
— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) October 19, 2020

No, I understand that. My

rmrd0000 — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:02:15 +0000

In reply to you must have missed the part

No, I understand that. My point is that, as a group, they were willing to vote for a known racist. They are changing their minds because they see the consequences. I don't think that outreach pointing out Trump's racism would have changed minds. Trump's behavior changed minds.

you must have missed the part

artappraiser — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 22:59:19 +0000

In reply to It appears that outreach did

you must have missed the part that what turned them off is having a president that poured fuel on the fire rather than one who was attempting to calm down people that were "overreaching".

It appears that outreach did

rmrd0000 — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 22:46:23 +0000

In reply to Absolutely fabulous 7:16

It appears that outreach did not change opinions. Observing the murder of a black man by police, while a crowd of black people pleaded with the officer to stop altered their view of being pro-life.

"I don’t know how to explain

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:51:58 +0000

In reply to Why These Voters Rejected Hillary Clinton but Are Backing Joe Biden

"I don’t know how to explain it.” - that largely just explained it

Absolutely fabulous 7:16

artappraiser — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 18:46:36 +0000

In reply to Why These Voters Rejected Hillary Clinton but Are Backing Joe Biden

Absolutely fabulous 7:16 minute video of Don Lemon interviewing an expert on Trump losing female Republican voters all of whom voted for him in 2016 (she has been working with many focus groups of same since that date.) I can't recommend it enough:

“He is failing to speak to the issues that are top of mind for women,” says Sarah Longwell, co-founder of Republican Voters Against Trump. “I’ve done about 50 focus groups over the last say three years. I’ve watched Donald Trump alienate these women in real time.” pic.twitter.com/Csw1JafRux
— CNN Tonight (@CNNTonight) October 17, 2020

Exceptionally interesting thing to me is that she says they were hanging in there with him through 2019. She started to see a turn in March and April and "especially in July".

Of course one can instead think that they are all "Karen" racists and one should not try to get their vote. As we have been lectured on dagblog about how all Trump voters are irredeemable.

But then you have to deal with what she says about how they reacted to Trump's handling of the George Floyd killing And Don agrees with what she has to say about that "155 thousand percent". She explains how many of these women are pro-life but are beginning to rethink what being pro-life means, and when they saw a grown man on video call out for his mama while being killed by a police officer....

To get into nuance, though, that Don and Sarah didn't have time for--what this type of woman now think about Trump, maybe they don't think the same about Amy Coney Barrett....