dagblog - Comments for "50 Cent calls on followers to vote for Trump citing Biden tax rate plan" http://dagblog.com/link/50-cent-calls-followers-vote-trump-citing-biden-tax-rate-plan-32775 Comments for "50 Cent calls on followers to vote for Trump citing Biden tax rate plan" en The rappers don't influence http://dagblog.com/comment/291968#comment-291968 <a id="comment-291968"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291952#comment-291952">How NYTimes&#039; pop music</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The rappers don't influence the majority of Black voters.</p> <p>In the past rappers wrote lyrics that made Trump a gangsta</p> <p>HuffPost listed 67 times Donald Trump's name  used in rap lyrics</p> <p><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hip-hops-25-year-obsession-with-donald-trump_n_55d61727e4b055a6dab3524a">https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hip-hops-25-year-obsession-with-donald-trump_n_55d61727e4b055a6dab3524a</a></p> <p>Trump lost favor among many in hip hop when he jumped into politics</p> <p>Russell Simmons wrote a letter to Trump criticizing Trump fueling the flames of hatred</p> <p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/politics/russell-simmons-donald-trump-letter/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/09/politics/russell-simmons-donald-trump-letter/index.htm</a>l</p> <p>It is not surprising that there is a fringe in the Black community who still support Trump.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 31 Oct 2020 15:36:43 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 291968 at http://dagblog.com How NYTimes' pop music http://dagblog.com/comment/291952#comment-291952 <a id="comment-291952"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/50-cent-calls-followers-vote-trump-citing-biden-tax-rate-plan-32775">50 Cent calls on followers to vote for Trump citing Biden tax rate plan</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>How NYTimes' pop music reporter Joe Coscarelli reported on topic, Oct. 30, in Music Section, with link on home page</p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/30/arts/music/lil-wayne-trump.html?action=click&amp;module=Top%20Stories&amp;pgtype=Homepage">Lil Wayne, Latest Rapper in Trump’s Orbit, Sees Backlash Over Photo</a></p> <p><em>Following Kanye West, 50 Cent and Ice Cube before him, the rapper faced criticism on social media after posting a seeming endorsement of the president.</em></p> <blockquote> <p>For as long as Donald J. Trump has been a brand name — representing playboy bling and New York business savvy in the 1990s up through his freestyle approach to presidential politics today — he has flirted with hip-hop. Sometimes, famous rappers reciprocate.</p> <p>Yet even for a man who once <u>palled around Manhattan nightclubs</u> with Puff Daddy and Russell Simmons, and later <u>hosted Kanye West</u> in the Oval Office, President Trump can still surprise with his Black celebrity alliances, judging by the reaction on Thursday night to a photo op with Lil Wayne.</p> <p>“Just had a great meeting with @realdonaldtrump,” the multiplatinum rapper posted to his nearly 35 million followers on Twitter after the two posed together in Florida, earning a retweet from the president. “He listened to what we had to say today and assured he will and can get it done.”</p> <p><em>[reproduction of tweet]</em></p> <p>The photo immediately went viral on social media, but the backlash was swift as well, making Lil Wayne the latest in a recent line of rappers to align themselves, however briefly, with the president’s re-election campaign, only to face criticism from fans and fellow artists. Lil Wayne, like Ice Cube before him, had cited the president’s Platinum Plan, a <u>two-page document</u> rolled out in September that promised to “increase access to capital in Black communities by almost $500 billion” over the next four years.</p> <p>The radio host Charlamagne Tha God, of The Breakfast Club on Power 105.1 FM in New York, <u>responded in a segment</u> on Friday morning, calling Lil Wayne’s apparent endorsement a distraction. While he noted that Black voters are not monolithic, Charlamagne added, “Trust me when I tell you, Black people are not on the Trump administration’s agenda, nor will we ever be. All of our civil liberties are at risk.”</p> <p>Representatives for Lil Wayne did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Friday. Previously, ahead of the 2016 election, Lil Wayne had <u>distanced himself from politics and the Black Lives Matter movement</u>, saying he preferred to focus on music. Asked about Mr. Trump specifically, the rapper responded with a laugh: “Who’s that?”</p> <p>Earlier this month, the New York rapper 50 Cent [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 31 Oct 2020 04:21:22 +0000 artappraiser comment 291952 at http://dagblog.com 87% not voting for Trump is http://dagblog.com/comment/291950#comment-291950 <a id="comment-291950"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291945#comment-291945">An interesting op-ed from The</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>87% not voting for Trump is amazing</p> <p>It takes long, repetitive conversations to begin to change Hotep minds.</p> <p>Not much will change given the short time until the election</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 31 Oct 2020 03:58:30 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 291950 at http://dagblog.com An interesting op-ed from The http://dagblog.com/comment/291945#comment-291945 <a id="comment-291945"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/50-cent-calls-followers-vote-trump-citing-biden-tax-rate-plan-32775">50 Cent calls on followers to vote for Trump citing Biden tax rate plan</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>An interesting op-ed from The Grio on the ruckus this stirred up:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">To all the people tweeting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BlameBlackMen?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BlameBlackMen</a> : I see the Cube in You.... <a href="https://t.co/kByYTFX6CT">https://t.co/kByYTFX6CT</a></p> — Jason Johnson (@DrJasonJohnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrJasonJohnson/status/1318996852675575809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 31 Oct 2020 02:59:07 +0000 artappraiser comment 291945 at http://dagblog.com You continue to make this http://dagblog.com/comment/291916#comment-291916 <a id="comment-291916"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291902#comment-291902">^ from now on I think I&#039;ll go</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You continue to make this personal.</p> <p>No one denies that there are Conservative Black voters.</p> <p>The overwhelming majority of Black voters support Democrats.</p> <p>Edit to add:</p> <p>More confirmation of my stance that Trump voters are willing to vote for a racist.</p> <p>Edit to add:</p> <p>We may have to wait until the end of the year to assess how different demographic groups voted. Work on the final push to GOTV continues. We will have exit poll numbers and hopefully mail in results. We don't have to speculate.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:22:17 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 291916 at http://dagblog.com Whatever  http://dagblog.com/comment/291915#comment-291915 <a id="comment-291915"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291908#comment-291908">Again, it wasn&#039;t praise! It</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Whatever </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 30 Oct 2020 11:27:33 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 291915 at http://dagblog.com Again, it wasn't praise! It http://dagblog.com/comment/291908#comment-291908 <a id="comment-291908"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291886#comment-291886">Loury and Hughes praised West</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Again, it wasn't praise! It was analysis of why Kanye does what he does. This is what cultural scholars do for a living FOR CRISSAKES!. They are not even offering whether they like or not it as a critic might.They are simply trying to help people analyze him as a cultural figure. I can't even believe you see it that way,<em> are you really that dense</em>?! Practicing cultural history analysis is not "a scam" Once again: they are not telling you to like Kanye or not and they are not trying to tell you whether to like Trump or not. They are simply trying to help you see what they do in our culture. Frankly, it's to get you to be a more critical thinker.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 30 Oct 2020 06:33:54 +0000 artappraiser comment 291908 at http://dagblog.com ^ from now on I think I'll go http://dagblog.com/comment/291902#comment-291902 <a id="comment-291902"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291901#comment-291901">Ice Cube and 50 Cent</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><span style="font-size:18px">^ </span><span style="font-size:13px">from now on I think I'll go with Kenya's input on what's going on in "the black community" over anonymous rmrd on the internet and have added her to those I am "following." She seems a lot more reliably interested in reality.than in The Root type bubble where rmrd's head seems to live.</span></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 30 Oct 2020 05:13:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 291902 at http://dagblog.com Ice Cube and 50 Cent http://dagblog.com/comment/291901#comment-291901 <a id="comment-291901"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/50-cent-calls-followers-vote-trump-citing-biden-tax-rate-plan-32775">50 Cent calls on followers to vote for Trump citing Biden tax rate plan</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/28/50-cent-ice-cube-trump-support-among-black-male-voters">Ice Cube and 50 Cent highlight conservative faction among Black, male voters</a></p> <p><em>The conservative leanings of public figures speak to part of the Black male electorate underrepresented in political conversations</em></p> <p>Kenya Evelyn from Washington @ TheGuardian.com Wed 28 Oct 2020 14.19 EDT</p> <blockquote> <p>on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/LiveFromKenya"> @LiveFromKenya</a>  </p> <p><img alt="" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1306237171968417794/tgQTO8VH_400x400.jpg" style="float:left" width="75" />Award-winning <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/Guardian">@Guardian</a> <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/GuardianUS">@GuardianUS</a> Reporter - National Affairs, Race &amp; Caribbean. It’s EVE-lyn.</p> <p><a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/HowardU">@HowardU</a> &amp; <a dir="ltr" href="https://twitter.com/AmericanU">@AmericanU</a> alumna</p> <p>.Evelyn(@)theguardian(.)com</p> <p>Now: DC via MKE, Soon: BIM <a href="https://t.co/kpfRc4uWZy?amp=1" rel=" noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kenyadowns.com</a>. Joined November 2010</p> </blockquote> <p>only a partial excerpt, the first half deals with the reaction against this reality </p> <blockquote> <p>[...] Terrance Woodbury, founding partner of the marketing research firm HIT Strategies, argues the conservative political leanings of public figures like 50 Cent or Ice Cube speak to a faction<em><strong> </strong></em>of the Black male electorate underrepresented in political conversations.</p> <p>“These trends did not start this cycle and there are generational differences. Black men in general are more socially conservative but Black men under 50 are positioned very differently than their elders,” he said.</p> <p>“Beyond generation, there’s both a turnout and performance problem that <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/democrats">Democrats</a> have experienced with Black male engagement,” he added.</p> <p>“Trump’s support among Black Americans is underwater, yet consistent over time with Black support for GOP presidential candidates,” Sam Fulwood III, a fellow with American University’s Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies (CCPS), <a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/522234-heres-why-young-black-male-voters-favor-trump">wrote for </a><a href="https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/522234-heres-why-young-black-male-voters-favor-trump">the Hill</a>.</p> <p>Before dying of the coronavirus, the Republican entrepreneur and Trump campaign surrogate Herman Cain advocated for “Blaxit”, (a Black exit from the Democratic party) by <a href="https://www.mediaite.com/tv/herman-cain-african-americans-have-been-brainwashed-by-media-into-hating-trump/">telling Fox Business</a> that Black Americans have “been brainwashed” into hating Trump, but many aren’t “buying the perception”.</p> <p>But in decades since white southerners flocked to the Republican party in response to the civil rights movement, Black voters have still maintained close ties with Democrats.</p> <p>Pew <a href="https://www.people-press.org/2018/03/20/1-trends-in-party-affiliation-among-demographic-groups/">analyzed 2017 data and found</a> that although African American voters remain overwhelmingly Democratic, support “has declined modestly”. <u><strong>About two-thirds of African Americans identified as Democrats, down from the first half of Barack Obama’s presidency.</strong></u></p> <p>Back then, about 75% of Black Americans affiliated as Democrats. Just 8% identified as Republican, the same percentage as voted for Trump in 2016.</p> <p><strong><u>Young Black voters, both men and women, are defecting most. </u></strong>Fulwood noted CCPS’s latest survey found “young Black Americans <a href="https://www.american.edu/media/news/20200730-new-au-survey-of-black-americans-in-swing-states.cfm">tend to view</a> Democrats much less favorably – and Republicans more favorably – than their older peers.”</p> <p>But while the survey <a href="https://www.american.edu/spa/ccps/upload/black-swing-voter-fact-sheet-final-7-29.pdf">found 79% thought Trump is racist</a>, 74% said he’s “incompetent” and 73% disagree with his policies, men more often “admired how the president shows strength and defies the establishment”.</p> <p>“Young Black men are rationally responding to their experience within an American political system that for all of their lives has been either hostile or indifferent to their concerns that the political deck is stacked against them and that politicians – Democratic or Republican – just don’t care about them,” he said.</p> <p>However, that strongman persona – defined by bully-like attacks, sexism and a refusal to apologize – could seal the deal for conservative, Black men disillusioned with the Democrats, and some critics contend that endangers Black women.</p> <p>“It’s internalized racism and misogyny that would allow anyone to align with a party so against your basic humanity while a majority of Black women fight them,”<strong> </strong>Clemente said, noting Black men, like most men overall, <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/just-36-percent-black-men-think-bidens-nominating-black-woman-vp-was-good-decision-1540670">least supported a Black vice-president candidate</a>. [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 30 Oct 2020 05:06:42 +0000 artappraiser comment 291901 at http://dagblog.com Roxane's two cents: http://dagblog.com/comment/291899#comment-291899 <a id="comment-291899"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/50-cent-calls-followers-vote-trump-citing-biden-tax-rate-plan-32775">50 Cent calls on followers to vote for Trump citing Biden tax rate plan</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Roxane's two cents:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>I am curious as to what level of ricy pushes rappers into MAGAville.</p> — roxane gay (@rgay) <a href="https://twitter.com/rgay/status/1322031988744851457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> <p>Wesley Yang:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>What’s up with Lil Wayne?</p> — Wesley Yang (@wesyang) <a href="https://twitter.com/wesyang/status/1322032673393725440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Lil Jon has the BEST response when asked to support Donald Trump's re-election like Lil Wayne and Lil Pump. <a href="https://t.co/pDGY12C4f2">https://t.co/pDGY12C4f2</a> <a href="https://t.co/dc8zdZDq5J">pic.twitter.com/dc8zdZDq5J</a></p> — Xeni Jardin (@xeni) <a href="https://twitter.com/xeni/status/1322017264808255488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> <p>He's consistent:</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Weezy been nuts the longest... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/lilwayne?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#lilwayne</a> <a href="https://t.co/9wbFgTNp2G">pic.twitter.com/9wbFgTNp2G</a></p> — Veyane. (@veyanendondo) <a href="https://twitter.com/veyanendondo/status/1322030008320303104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2020</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Fri, 30 Oct 2020 04:36:48 +0000 artappraiser comment 291899 at http://dagblog.com