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artappraiser — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 11:33:37 +0000

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Blacks refused to get

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 06:52:33 +0000

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Blacks refused to get involved with John Brown's suicidal mission as well.

https://time.com/5896684/john-brown-lessons/

Reality in most if not all

NCD — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 06:39:56 +0000

In reply to Unless you are trying to say

Reality is most if not all recent shootings and murders have been by whites. As has most or all of the criminal conspiracies, the threats against politicians, and the marching around with assault weapons.

Lincoln's "preservation plan"

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 06:33:23 +0000

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Lincoln's "preservation plan" killed a helluva lot more people than John Brown. (People act as if he were a peacenick, which in theory he probably was; in practice he was quite naive so needed massive power to bail him out). Tho maybe Brown convinced the already paranoid South how violent it could turn with his murders of settlers in Kansas. Not that the rush for majority decision on slavery in Kansas wasn't a magnet for all the crazies to rush in, and more important a cause than anything the Boogaloos have come up with. And yes, the western question should have been settled in 1820, not with a winner-take-all contest in the 50s.

you can't explain this away

artappraiser — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 05:56:35 +0000

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you can't explain this away like that as just another plot by those who wish to maintain white supremacy, just the opposite, extremist libertarian impulses have always been a persistent minority strain in this country even before it was a country, it's part of the fabric of our culture, cf.

...McVeigh was hoping to deliver a blow to the government so forceful that it would bring it to its knees and ensure another Waco would never happen. In the days leading up to the bombing, McVeigh was said to have warned his sister of a coming revolution against the federal government....

has little to do with organized anything much less organized political parties. Think New Hampshire or Wyoming, Gadsden flag...

Yes, these people do have some commonalities with John Brown if that's what you're thinking about.

Unless you are trying to say

artappraiser — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 05:41:40 +0000

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Unless you are trying to say you are basically on the anarchist side, that it would be great if we brought this whole American experiment down, start over, fuck Abraham Lincoln and his preservation plan?

1870, "If negroes vote, it

NCD — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 03:10:41 +0000

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1870, "If negroes vote, it causes violence and trouble, (...by armed whites), signed, Knights of White Camelia.

2020 - " If BLM protests, it causes violence and trouble, (....by armed whites), signed, Republicans.

You know their violent

artappraiser — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 01:30:33 +0000

In reply to No surprise to me. The only

You know their violent participation in BLM protests is a ironic catch-22 for the BLM movement. How can you police participants in a protest if the protest is against policing itself? Convince them of the benefits of non-violence by talking it out? These guys don't want to talk, they want to see action against police. To them live protesting is not about talking, They already talked it all out online, they know what they want: war with cops, get rid of cops. Live protests against police are a chance to rile people up further, get some action going in the war against cops.

Edit to add: and especially federal cops, that's where there's the similarity with McVeigh: anti Federal government in general. And this is where the radical claims of official BLM manifestoes ring hollow as being aligned with the Democratic party, they are not. Nor are those who focus on attacking Dem mayors of big cities. Take away the name tags and what you are dealing with across the board is attack on "big government". This is why the few true libertarians who have roles in big government, like Justin Amash, are very sympathetic to many official BLM policy ideas. They are not vanilla left ideas, they are radical libertarian anti-big-government ideas, i.e., let the people help themselves in local loose organizations, let them protect themselves with their own guns, etc.

It's no coincidence that groups like the diehard Portland protesters never mention Trump or Republicans Their beef is with any Dem who would support a big government including an FBI and a Homeland Security Dept. and not to mention an FDA that tells you what drugs you can take and what food you can eat.

No surprise to me. The only

artappraiser — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 00:57:38 +0000

In reply to Boogaloo Boy Charged With Firing On Minneapolis Police Station During George Floyd Protests

No surprise to me. The only thing Boogaloos have in common ideologically speaking as a loose group is a hatred for police and similar authorities. On anything else they may differ.

Therefore they are drawn to the more angry riot-like BLM protests like flies to honey, hop in their trucks and get there ASAP.

Nearly the same exact thing with the case of Stephen Parshall (a white Boogaloo) who first was involve with violence in Las Vegas BLM protets, then rushed to Oakland BLM protests with an armory in his vehicle to shoot the first cop he could find.

They have no disagreement with most of official BLM goals, that's for sure. They share many of the same martyrs. They want to carry it further. Boogaloo is where extreme right wing and left wing anarchists meet.

from my linked article

Boogaloo bois might not be driving the country selling books at gun shows, but through memes, they share the shorthand version of the ideas that inspired McVeigh. Guns are currency. Martyrs are never forgotten. Even the Day of the Rope is having a second life as a hashtag shared by members of a movement that some try to insist is not racist. There is no Boogaloo manifesto — not yet, at least. But there is a version of the Boogaloo flag that has been going around the internet more and more lately. It’s that same black-and-white flag with the red strip of flowers, but this time, on all the stripes, there are names:

His name was Eric Garner.

Her name was Vicki Weaver.

His name was Robert LaVoy Finicum.

Her name was Breonna Taylor.

His name was Duncan Lemp.

The Star Tribune reports Ivan

rmrd0000 — Fri, 23 Oct 2020 23:49:34 +0000

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The Star Tribune reports Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old from Boerne, Texas, allegedly fired an AK-47 at Minneapolis Police’s Third Precinct while yelling “Justice for George Floyd,” according to a federal complaint. The complaint also alleged that Hunter helped loot and set the precinct on fire. Hunter has been charged with one count of interstate travel to incite a riot for his role in sowing chaos during the initial protests surrounding Floyd’s death in late May.

The complaint, which included a sworn affidavit from the FBI, provides a detailed account of how the Boogaloo movement tried to capitalize on the George Floyd protests to incite more violence under the guise of the Black Lives Matter movement.

https://www.theroot.com/boogaloo-boy-charged-for-opening-fire-and-helping-set-m-1845467211

Link to the Star Tribune story

https://www.startribune.com/charges-boogaloo-bois-fired-on-mpls-precinct-shouted-justice-for-floyd/572843802/?refresh=true