dagblog - Comments for "France recalls Turkey envoy after Erdogan says Macron needs &#039;mental check&#039;" http://dagblog.com/link/france-recalls-turkey-envoy-after-erdogan-says-macron-needs-mental-check-32820 Comments for "France recalls Turkey envoy after Erdogan says Macron needs 'mental check'" en actually the conversation on http://dagblog.com/comment/292173#comment-292173 <a id="comment-292173"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/292168#comment-292168">Thomas Chatterton Williams as</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>actually the conversation on Klion's twitter thread, which includes T.W. Williams and others, was a pleasant surprise, quite lively and highbrow after his initial response. While I can't speak for others, I find myself still happy with the crowd he hangs with and the crowd he argues with.</p> <p>I especially liked this reply</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Is it just the ostensible heteronormativity that's the outrage here? I'm sure there are some transwomen who'd accept praise for their secondary sex characteristics. Can I still say "secondary sex characteristics"? No one really gets praised for aesthetically perfect testicles.</p> — Culpability Jones (@ShineboxHukster) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShineboxHukster/status/1322943327231160321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 03 Nov 2020 23:22:02 +0000 artappraiser comment 292173 at http://dagblog.com Thomas Chatterton Williams as http://dagblog.com/comment/292168#comment-292168 <a id="comment-292168"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/france-recalls-turkey-envoy-after-erdogan-says-macron-needs-mental-check-32820">France recalls Turkey envoy after Erdogan says Macron needs &#039;mental check&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thomas Chatterton Williams as puerile chattering muffin.<br /> How to blow a reputation as an avant-garde "intellectual"?</p> <p><a href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephenlaconte/emily-ratajkowski-sexist-interview-twitter">https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephenlaconte/emily-ratajkowski-sexist-intervi...</a></p> </div></div></div> Tue, 03 Nov 2020 20:48:31 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 292168 at http://dagblog.com LOL, ask the Kurds in Turkey http://dagblog.com/comment/291739#comment-291739 <a id="comment-291739"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/france-recalls-turkey-envoy-after-erdogan-says-macron-needs-mental-check-32820">France recalls Turkey envoy after Erdogan says Macron needs &#039;mental check&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">LOL, ask the Kurds in Turkey what they think about that <a href="https://t.co/kbeWTEywD5">https://t.co/kbeWTEywD5</a></p> — Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1320951140259753990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 27 Oct 2020 04:43:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 291739 at http://dagblog.com well put question: http://dagblog.com/comment/291722#comment-291722 <a id="comment-291722"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/france-recalls-turkey-envoy-after-erdogan-says-macron-needs-mental-check-32820">France recalls Turkey envoy after Erdogan says Macron needs &#039;mental check&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>well put question:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Why is it considered a pro-Muslim point of view to avoid offending us when you are okay offending basically every other faith? Wouldn't that infantilize us? Maybe not all of us want to be children? French situation is an embarrassment, we should want to live in pluralism.</p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1320807314933374977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 26 Oct 2020 19:24:41 +0000 artappraiser comment 291722 at http://dagblog.com There is no "real" binary. http://dagblog.com/comment/291682#comment-291682 <a id="comment-291682"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/291679#comment-291679">Intro tweet to the above </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>There is no "real" binary. There are many binaries, if we're going to talk like that. Yes I can form a coalition with some on let's call it the intellectual right in support of free speech and rational debate and against cancel culture and all that it entails. But there are so many other  fundamental "binaries" where I vehemently disagree. Even among the intellectual right there's what I see as an irrational adherence to religion, mostly Christian, and I'm an atheist. And that encompasses so many smaller issues like abortion etc. Then there's the power dynamics. The intellectual right supports the raw use of power to achieve their goals  like the electoral college and stacking the courts. I support limiting that raw power or if that's not possible for the the democrats using power when they get it in ways as extreme as the republicans. While there are times when I can agree with the right on trans issues I see a strain there that is anti trans.There is some real dislike there that I don't want to be a part of. I don't care at all if someone is trans. I just want to disagree with the pc trans line and debate the issues without being "canceled." Or more to the point since I personally will be unaffected, I want anyone to be able to discuss it. I could go on about the areas where I fundamentally disagree with the right. Mostly it's just the defense of free speech and rational debate where I can join with the right.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 26 Oct 2020 04:56:56 +0000 ocean-kat comment 291682 at http://dagblog.com Intro tweet to the above http://dagblog.com/comment/291679#comment-291679 <a id="comment-291679"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/france-recalls-turkey-envoy-after-erdogan-says-macron-needs-mental-check-32820">France recalls Turkey envoy after Erdogan says Macron needs &#039;mental check&#039;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Intro tweet to the above (Williams is American but currently lives in France)</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">That's exactly how a president should speak <a href="https://t.co/FvABZ38J3M">https://t.co/FvABZ38J3M</a></p> — Thomas Chatterton Williams (@thomaschattwill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1320449037061992450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>and tweeted thought 8 hours before</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">every day i'm more convinced that the real binary is less left vs. right than the universal vs. the identitarian (present on both the left and the right).<br /><br /> we need new vocabulary and new coalitions.</p> — Thomas Chatterton Williams (@thomaschattwill) <a href="https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1320355359316447232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 26 Oct 2020 04:33:16 +0000 artappraiser comment 291679 at http://dagblog.com