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Rhodes is notoriously bad at

artappraiser — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 05:39:41 +0000

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Rhodes is notoriously bad at getting his followers to show up. https://t.co/EFfPt8imA5
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) October 29, 2020

If anything happens, it's big news. Until then, it's important not to scare people away from the polls.
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) October 29, 2020

Good example of asymmetric

artappraiser — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 03:44:38 +0000

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Good example of asymmetric politics by way of projection. Conservatives know how their party reacts to aggressive ideologues on the right and assume it must be true of the other side as well. It isn’t. The two parties aren’t similarly constituted. https://t.co/Ggnb3hMM1h
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) October 30, 2020

A lot of this is due to an asymmetric collapse of party establishments. The GOP apparatus is less trusted by its median voter than the Democratic elite. Hence rabble-rousers in one party have more powrr over its base than in the other party.
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) October 30, 2020

Comes to mind the above description of a collapse of any GOP establishment is one of the things that The Lincoln Project bitterly complains about.

The violence threat at the

ReddFoxx — Thu, 29 Oct 2020 01:21:54 +0000

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The violence threat at the polls is coming from one side. In this case it is supported by the judicial system.

See the ruling on guns by the

Robert Redd — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 23:17:31 +0000

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See the ruling on guns by the Michigan judge (below)

Michigan poll workers should

NCD — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 20:47:05 +0000

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Michigan poll workers should walkout on election day anywhere armed militia members show up to vote.

If any poll workers are left, lines would be very long, and tempers hot, but as it's mostly Trump voters who are waiting to vote until election day, screw them.

um, did you read it?

artappraiser — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 20:45:06 +0000

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um, did you read it?

The number of respondents who thought it justified to physically attack the other candidate’s supporters was relatively small: Just 3% of Republicans and 4% of Democrats.

But both sides perceived the other as much more willing to condone violence: 49% of Democrats estimated that Republicans would condone physically attacking Biden supporters if Trump claimed the election had been stolen. And when the roles were reversed, 52% of Republicans thought Democrats would condone the same attacks if Biden claimed the election had been stolen.

Like another president once said:nothing to fear except fear itself

A Michigan judge has blocked

rmrd0000 — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 18:17:57 +0000

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A Michigan judge has blocked a ban on openly carrying firearms at Michigan polling places on Election Day.

Court of Claims Judge Christopher Murray granted a preliminary injunction to pro-gun groups who filed motions to block the directive issued by Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson on Oct. 16.

Benson sought to prohibit firearms at polling places, clerk's offices and other locations where absentee ballots will be tallied. Her order also barred individuals openly carrying guns from coming within 100 feet of buildings serving as polling centers.

However, Murray said in his opinion Tuesday that Benson's directive didn't follow the formal process laid out in state law about how new orders are enacted.

"The main issue as the Court sees it is the allegation that the directive violates the [Administrative Procedures Act] because it is a rule that was not promulgated through the act's procedures," Murray wrote. "And, a rule not promulgated under the APA is invalid."

Murray also appeared to take issue on the timing of Benson's directive – less than three weeks ahead of Election Day.

"Although it is understandable why defendant chose to act now, it is nonetheless true that defendant could have taken these steps months ago—perhaps prior to the August primaries—rather than 17 days before the election," the judge said.

Plaintiff Robert Davis, who sued to block Benson's order and is described by the Detroit Free Press as a "serial litigant," called the judge's order "a victory for the rule of law."

Michigan Open Carry Inc., Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Inc. and Michigan Gun Owners, Inc. also filed a motion.

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says her office plans to appeal the court blocking her ban of openly carrying firearms near polling places on Election Day. She's seen above speaking during the Democratic National Convention in August.

Following the judge's order, Benson swiftly vowed to appeal.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/28/928617983/michigan-judge-blocks-ban-on-open-carry-of-guns-at-polls-on-election-day

If Biden loses, it is very

rmrd0000 — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 13:12:43 +0000

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If Biden loses, it is very likely that he will accept the results and try to calm things down.

Trump is the wild card. He found good people on both sides in Charlottesville. He told the Proud Boys to sand by. Trump downplays a kidnap plan involving a Governor. He is casting doubt on the election results. It is very likely that Republicans will have to grow a backbone and suppress Trump's urge to seek revenge before January 20th if he loses.

I don't think large segments of the Black community would be shocked if Trump wins. I think it would be confirmation of where a segment thinks we are as a country.