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“People who look like me” is

artappraiser — Fri, 27 Nov 2020 21:50:27 +0000

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“People who look like me” is a formulation I see woke, wealthy Indians use quite a bit. I’d be curious what an African American from East St. Louis or the projects in Baltimore thinks about that.
— Drucker’s Revenge (@rsbcvet) November 27, 2020

A good argument that many

artappraiser — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 06:17:31 +0000

In reply to Which tribes have what privileges?

A good argument that many Asian-Americans feel a lack of privilege as Americans. depending upon how Asian their features are:

“Where are you from?”
“Where are you *from*?”
“No. Where are you *really* from?”

Is there any Asian American who hasn’t heard that? I’m not a Dodgers or Marlins fan of course but sign me up for the Kim Ng fan club. Congrats to @Marlins on this hire. Rooting for Ng’s success. https://t.co/259RKVomD2
— Cecillia Wang 王德棻 (@WangCecillia) November 17, 2020

Still implies lots of people

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 08:04:04 +0000

In reply to If judging by income alone

Still implies lots of people voted for Trump based on Obama's recovery after Bush's disastrous crash.

"small differences in initial

artappraiser — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 07:13:24 +0000

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"small differences in initial confidence can result in diverging patterns of human capital accumulation between otherwise identical individuals...cognitive tests should take place as early as possible to avoid systematic differences in self-confidence among equally talented ppl" pic.twitter.com/dUWiz5I1vB
— Rob Henderson (@robkhenderson) November 15, 2020

"Compared to previous generations, more American college students now rate themselves as above average on academic ability, leadership ability, public speaking...trends are not explained by changes in objective performance (e.g., SAT scores have declined)" https://t.co/c9fTy8uozN pic.twitter.com/O4KWI98QoI
— Rob Henderson (@robkhenderson) November 15, 2020

If judging by income alone

artappraiser — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 04:54:52 +0000

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If judging by income alone (which of course doesn't really fit the definition of "privilege" for everyone using the term, as some would apply it to a ski bum living on savings )

it would be Asian-Americans (including numerous sub-tribes, see last chart)

Some interesting Census Bureau data on median household income of Asian Americans vs. White Households. pic.twitter.com/m3LfWaxdhL
— Mark J. Perry (@Mark_J_Perry) May 18, 2020

^ note they conclude that the

artappraiser — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:49:40 +0000

In reply to Why East Asians but not South

^ note they conclude that the problem is cultural and NOT "racial".

So a Black billionaire

rmrd0000 — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:05:49 +0000

In reply to Oprah is a true meritocrat,

So a Black billionaire marries a Playboy Playmate

He developed a reliability test for semiconductors at Bell Labs while in high school

He earned a chemical engineering degree at Cornell

Then earned an MBA from Columbia

Not a meritocrat?

Oprah is a true meritocrat,

artappraiser — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:59:45 +0000

In reply to You should do Oprah Winfrey

Oprah is a true meritocrat, she got where she is with skills selling empathy for every other individual person, the opposite of tribalism and oppression olympics. And boy does it sell well. And virtually no one would ever not want to live next to her. It's a model others should definitely think about when they blame the other about not being able to get any power. Ever think of walking in someone else's shoes (showing a little understanding for "the other") instead of fighting over the scraps of every last preference?

You should do Oprah Winfrey

rmrd0000 — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:21:03 +0000

In reply to He doesn't have privilege?

You should do Oprah Winfrey next.

Why East Asians but not South

artappraiser — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:55:22 +0000

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Why East Asians but not South Asians are underrepresented in leadership positions in the United States

Jackson G. Lu, Richard E. Nisbett, and Michael W. Morris

RESEARCH ARTICLE @ PNAS. oef, March 3, 2020 117 (9) 4590-4600; first published February 18, 2020; https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1918896117

Contributed by Richard E. Nisbett, December 13, 2019 (sent for review October 30, 2019; reviewed by Stephen J. Ceci, Robert B. Cialdini, and Dov Cohen

Significance

Whereas extensive research has examined the “glass ceiling” faced by women, little research has examined the “bamboo ceiling,” whereby Asians appear disproportionately underrepresented in leadership positions in the United States. To investigate the mechanisms and scope of this problem, we compared the two largest Asian subgroups: East Asians and South Asians. Across nine studies (n = 11,030), East Asians were less likely than South Asians and whites to attain leadership positions, whereas South Asians outperformed whites. The leadership attainment gap between East Asians and South Asians was consistently explained by cultural differences in assertiveness, but not by prejudice or motivation. To leverage diverse leadership talent, organizations should understand the differences among different cultural groups and diversify the prototype of leadership.

Abstract

Well-educated and prosperous, Asians are called the “model minority” in the United States. However, they appear disproportionately underrepresented in leadership positions, a problem known as the “bamboo ceiling.” It remains unclear why this problem exists and whether it applies to all Asians or only particular Asian subgroups. To investigate the mechanisms and scope of the problem, we compared the leadership attainment of the two largest Asian subgroups in the United States: East Asians (e.g., Chinese) and South Asians (e.g., Indians). Across nine studies (n = 11,030) using mixed methods (archival analyses of chief executive officers, field surveys in large US companies, student leader nominations and elections, and experiments), East Asians were less likely than South Asians and whites to attain leadership positions, whereas South Asians were more likely than whites to do so. To understand why the bamboo ceiling exists for East Asians but not South Asians, we examined three categories of mechanisms—prejudice (intergroup), motivation (intrapersonal), and assertiveness (interpersonal)—while controlling for demographics (e.g., birth country, English fluency, education, socioeconomic status). Analyses revealed that East Asians faced less prejudice than South Asians and were equally motivated by work and leadership as South Asians. However, East Asians were lower in assertiveness, which consistently mediated the leadership attainment gap between East Asians and South Asians. These results suggest that East Asians hit the bamboo ceiling because their low assertiveness is incongruent with American norms concerning how leaders should communicate. The bamboo ceiling is not an Asian issue, but an issue of cultural fit.

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