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More privileged communities:

artappraiser — Sat, 14 Nov 2020 00:40:07 +0000

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More privileged communities: limit the ability of gig workers to contract freely.

Less privileged communities: lift limits on the ability of gig workers to contract freely https://t.co/asQykde0fe
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) November 14, 2020

I'm curious if @DrIbram would

artappraiser — Sat, 07 Nov 2020 19:46:09 +0000

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I'm curious if @DrIbram would consider the multiracial, bipartisan coalition of California voters who rejected racial preferences in hiring and admissions to be racist or anti-racist https://t.co/RSF80t2QYi
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) November 7, 2020

According to available disclosures, the pro-Prop 16 side spent $19,926,905 while the anti-Prop 16 side spent $1,172,614. The "positive discrimination" side had 20 times as much spending. Yet they lost by double-digits. What explains that, @DrIbram? https://t.co/EiymY0Ad4x
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) November 7, 2020

California “voted against

artappraiser — Sat, 07 Nov 2020 09:21:51 +0000

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California “voted against eliminating cash bail, a major goal of progressive reformers. Voters may sympathize with poor defendants, but they’re reluctant to trade a well-understood system for vague bureaucratic promises of risk assessment.” https://t.co/uOnewtN9dD
— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) November 7, 2020

One of a complex of

artappraiser — Sat, 07 Nov 2020 03:35:57 +0000

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One of a complex of fascinating results from yesterday:

*affirmative action fails in California
*$15.00 minimum wage passes in Florida
*Trump increases support among Blacks/Latinos

A plausible case that a socially conservative/economically moderate politics has a future. https://t.co/Pfuh2JXot8
— wfpetrie (@wfpetrie2) November 4, 2020

I note that David Brockman is Associate Professor of Political Science @UCBerkeley

.his feed is here https://twitter.com/dbroockman

He retweeted this earlier today, concerning another thread:

There’s a real point here (which is part of Broockman’s day to day research), which is that the effectiveness of mobilization tactics that progressive groups employ are much lower than people realize. The ratio of impact for AVR vs literally all mobilization was probably ~100:1.
— (((David Shor))) (@davidshor) November 6, 2020

and he retweeted this on Nov. 4

If you are trying to make sense of Florida’s vote to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour AND reelect Trump, I’d like to remind of the upper-left hand quadrant of this chart I made back in 2017. Lots of voters are socially conservative and economically liberal. pic.twitter.com/zoTzXFjCME
— Lee Drutman (@leedrutman) November 4, 2020

P.S. from other tweets it is very clear that he is anti-Trump

All politics is local . . .

oldenGoldenDecoy — Sat, 07 Nov 2020 01:41:17 +0000

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All politics is local . . .

This is from my incoming City Council member quoted in the article I've linked below:

“California is America before America is itself — the good, the bad, the ugly, it’s the whole shebang,” said Kevin de León, former president pro tempore of the state Senate and an incoming Los Angeles City Council member.

Keep in mind my posts here at Dag about local county and city ballot measures being voted in in the absence of many proposed yet tabled state legislation and ballot measures.

LA County Measure J Results: What We Know So Far About The Measure To Dedicate Some County Funding To Anti-Jail Efforts - laist.com

And from NBC News

Voters Around the US Approve Local Police Reform Measures
The results reflect a growing demand for greater law enforcement

Now to the NYT article of Nov 6...

It appears that the New York Times authors read and cribbed liberally (excuse the pun) the gist of their article from the following that was published at NBC News on October 13.

Democrats hold all the power in California, so why aren't progressives happy?
“The future party tensions are between the progressive wing of the
Democratic Party and the moderate wing of the Democratic Party.”

In November, California voters could demonstrate how much they’ve shifted. Ballot propositions will present voters with a choice to repeal the affirmative action ban, and to lift the cap on property taxes for large commercial buildings. A Berkeley IGS Poll last month showed Californians leaning toward allowing property taxes to be re-evaluated, but the affirmative action ban is likely to stay.

~snip~

Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon, a Democrat from Los Angeles County, said in a statement that “as a progressive, I share the frustration that we're not moving fast enough,” but he ticked off several legislative accomplishments — including increasing the minimum wage and boosting renewable energy goals — that, he said, were a result of electing Democrats. “Change is happening,” he said.

Black Lives Matter activists hoped that 2020 would be the year left-of-center legislators stood up against the police lobby.

The state passed more than a dozen bills aimed at changing the criminal justice system in the wake of George Floyd’s killing, including one proposal to require the state attorney general to investigate every time police kill an unarmed person. But the Legislature didn’t pass other measures that would have strengthened police oversight.

Senate Bill 731, introduced by state Sen. Steven Bradford, a Democrat, sought to create an independent body with the power to strip badges from police officers shown to have used excessive force, committed sexual assault, falsified evidence or committed a serious crime. The bill could not overcome objections from police unions who said that stripping badges from officers went too far. The bill never came up for a vote.

Other proposals, including one that would give citizens access to police personnel records and another to curtail the use of tear gas and rubber bullets to control crowds, also perished without a vote.

“It’s hugely problematic that police associations are basically allowed to run the Legislature,” said Melina Abdullah, co-founder of Black Lives Matter-Los Angeles. “The idea that police should be decertified when they kill someone or commit serious acts of misconduct would have brought us in line with 45 other states. It is the bare minimum we could do. It is tragic.”

~OGD~

another excerpt

artappraiser — Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:24:14 +0000

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another excerpt

The affirmative action measure on the ballot this year, for example, dated to 1996. That year, 55 percent of the state’s electorate voted to ban the use of race, ethnicity, national origin or gender in public hiring, contracting and university admissions.

The proposition that California voted on this time would have repealed the ban and was supported by a who’s who of the Democratic Party in the state, including Kamala Harris, the senator and vice-presidential candidate. But it was defeated by almost the same margin with which it had passed originally.

Analysts saw a reflection of the state’s demographic complexity in the vote.

“It’s always difficult to do proposition campaigns in a state of 40 million people,” said Anthony Rendon, a Democrat and the speaker of the California Assembly. “But our racial and ethnic groups are more complicated and divided than they used to be, in a bunch of different ways.”