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Analysis Hispanic entrance

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 22 Nov 2020 00:16:00 +0000

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Analysis Hispanic entrance polls vs margins in key districts (Nevada 2016)

Presumably entrance polls as unreliable as exit polls

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/who-won-the-latino-vote-in-nevada/

excerpt from the Politico

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Nov 2020 23:50:32 +0000

In reply to Per @MarcACaputo’s story

excerpt from the Politico article includes one thing I was not aware of, how BLM-related riots and looting played on Spanish-language TV!

But, in interviews with more than a dozen experts on Hispanic voters in six states, no factor was as salient as Trump’s blue-collar appeal for Latinos.

“Most Latinos identify first as working-class Americans, and Trump spoke to that,” said Josh Zaragoza, a top Democratic data specialist in Arizona, adding that Hispanic men in particular “are very entrepreneurial. Their economic language is more aligned with the way Republicans speak: pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, owning your own business.”

And then there’s the way the left spoke — or were framed by Trump’s campaign for speaking. Calls to “defund the police,” a boycott of Goya Foods and the threat of socialism turned off some Latino voters. And even using the term Latinx to describe Latinos in a way that’s gender-neutral only served to puzzle many Hispanics.

“About 97 percent of Latinos don’t say ‘Latinx,’” Zaragoza said, referring to a Pew Research poll on the subject. “We’re building strategies around young progressive activists and organizations — and they’re necessary and we appreciate what they do.

“But a lot of Latino voters are focused on ‘I’m a hardworking American trying to feed my family or build a business,’ and a lot of this language doesn’t speak to them.”

The backlash

Amid the backdrop of the Black Lives Matter protests and the sputtering economy during the pandemic, Trump’s campaign found that Latinos were almost as receptive as non-Hispanic whites to a pro-police and pro-jobs message.

As images of flaming cities played frequently on Spanish-language TV, Trump’s campaign tailored bilingual ads, social media posts and mailers to paint Democrats as radicals. Even though Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) lost the Democratic presidential primary, his embrace of socialism and Latin American leftist leaders was used in swing district races against congressional Democrats — who lost seats in the House and made far fewer gains in the Senate and in state legislatures than expected.

“Let’s face it, ‘defund the police’ is just not the best slogan, especially in a place like Miami, where a lot of people work in law enforcement, or along the border of Texas, where Latinos are in Border Patrol,” said Jose Parra, founder of the consultancy Prospero Latino and a past adviser to Democratic Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada.

Black Lives Matter activists pushed back this week on critics, saying the movement is being scapegoated and ignored for helping drive up Democratic voter registrations [....]

I certainly read evidence of how poorly it was thought of with the many Dominicans and Puerto Ricans in my Bronx-to-Harlem area, but I never thought to think of just turning on the Spanish language TV channels and checking them out at the time.

Comes to mind AOC has similar

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:53:04 +0000

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Comes to mind AOC has similar problems. She definitely knows how to relate to working class! At the same time, she won't do the necessary "Sister Souljah moments" to tamp down the political correctness police that turns them off. She thinks she can make a coalition of these two types, that's what social justice and woke warriors think too. They just can't see how many working class don't like their act, and now we are seeing it's not just "racist" white folks that don't like their act. It's like mixing oil and water.

well yeah, a lot of his

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:48:49 +0000

In reply to Bernie overhyped his Latino

well yeah, a lot of his infamous Bro warriors were white college radical socialist elite boys, wouldn't know what to do with a shovel or a rake. Their input, noticed and played up by right wing social media (i.e. commie flags with Bernie's face) was a real turnoff to the working class that Bernie himself knew how to court.

Bernie overhyped his Latino

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:43:01 +0000

In reply to Per @MarcACaputo’s story

Bernie overhyped his Latino draw to better complain about Nevada.

Per @MarcACaputo’s story

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:52:07 +0000

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Per @MarcACaputo’s story today, “Trump improved his margins in 78 of the nation’s 100 majority-Hispanic counties.” https://t.co/tRo6QWTXTp
— Holly Otterbein (@hollyotterbein) November 21, 2020

How long can the "Latinx" label survive? It was coined to solve a problem for modern academics (removing gendered language), not Latinos. Is the Democratic Party's political apparatus (led by a Latino!) married to a term that Latinos don't use? https://t.co/UWqOrDVpFD
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 21, 2020

Of all the Democratic problems popping up in these after-action reports on Trump's Latino gains, "not using a term that only grad students use" seems the most fixable
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 21, 2020

damn south texas latinos

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:39:09 +0000

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damn south texas latinos really did go wild for trump, ht @Nate_Cohn pic.twitter.com/0sRolRpEzQ
— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) November 21, 2020

Nate Silver and Matt Yglesias

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Nov 2020 03:46:01 +0000

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Nate Silver and Matt Yglesias doing "told ya so" on topic:

I did a segment on national TV about it!https://t.co/ish88LEeDv https://t.co/1RzrCcbXac
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 20, 2020

I do love though how this Axios thread refers to how *reporters* are out of touch with reality at the very moment the president's lawyers allege with zero evidence that there was a massive conspiracy by George Soros and Hugo Chavez to steal the election. https://t.co/0V0GLRaaqR
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 20, 2020

[....] Naturalized immigrants

artappraiser — Fri, 20 Nov 2020 18:17:21 +0000

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[....] Naturalized immigrants account for nearly one-in-five Black eligible voters in Florida, by far the highest share among battleground states. By contrast, immigrants make up less than 5% of the Black electorate in Ohio, Wisconsin, North Carolina and Michigan.

Immigrants have been an important driver in the growth of the country’s Black eligible voter population. Between 2000 and 2018, the number of immigrants in the Black electorate almost tripled from 800,000 to 2.3 million, and their shares doubled from 4% in 2000 to 8% in 2018, according to Pew Research Center analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data.

The top two regions of origin for this electorate are the Caribbean and Africa, with these regions accounting for 50% and 41% of Black immigrant eligible voters, respectively. This reflects trends among the overall Black American foreign-born population.

The top regions of origin can differ greatly between battleground states. In Florida, the vast majority (92%) of its Black immigrant voting public hails from Caribbean nations such as Haiti and Jamaica. In Ohio, by contrast, 84% of its immigrant Black electorate was born in African countries such as Ethiopia and Somalia.

From Pew.org, OCTOBER 21, 2020

Key facts about Black eligible voters in 2020 battleground states

Interesting, this Flynn

artappraiser — Thu, 19 Nov 2020 20:08:10 +0000

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Interesting, this Flynn lawyer guy has no decency--BUT WE KNEW THAT, same as with Cohn-- is using old tyme propaganda rhetoric to rouse the pro-Trump anti-socialist Latino vote to stay with him, it also plays into the right wing tactic of painting Dems as dangerously beholden to the AOC Squad

The fetid corpse of Trump's mobbed-up, closet case, McCarthyite mentor, Roy Cohn, is cackling from the grave as the GOP commits more grave acts of treason than Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, whom Cohn executed in the electric chair. https://t.co/f1wUE70OSu
— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) November 19, 2020