dagblog - Comments for "Former Minnesota Democratic leader quits party" http://dagblog.com/link/former-minnesota-democratic-leader-quits-party-33085 Comments for "Former Minnesota Democratic leader quits party" en Guess that I linger in your http://dagblog.com/comment/293810#comment-293810 <a id="comment-293810"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/293802#comment-293802">this is why I argued about</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Guess that I linger in your mind</p> <p>From your linked article<br />  </p> <blockquote> <p><strong>Both Bakk and Tomassoni represent districts in the Iron Range. Democratic sources said their departure may have been foretold when Bakk lost a challenge for his leadership role to state Sen. Susan Kent earlier this year.</strong> Kent represents Woodbury, a suburb of St. Paul.</p> <p>In a statement, state Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka (R) welcomed the two former Democrats. </p> <p><strong>“There is usually more that brings us together than drives us apart and I know we will find ways to advance issues important to Minnesotans,” Gazelka said. Gazelka <a href="https://twitter.com/thauserkstp/status/1329065834615087104" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">told KSTP reporter Tom Hauser</a> that the two senators would be appointed to chair prominent committees. </strong></p> <p>Kent, the Democratic minority leader, said her party appreciated Bakk’s and Tomassoni’s service.</p> </blockquote> <p>Perhaps this had more to do with losing a leadership role in one party and gaining a leadership role in another party?</p> <p>I pointed out a suburb Biden won despite Trump's Law &amp; Order message</p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/us/biden-suburbs-blue-minneapolis.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/16/us/biden-suburbs-blue-minneapolis.html</a></p> <p>The strength of the DFL is in cities and suburbs </p> <blockquote> <p>Minnesota Democrats didn't get the blue wave they wanted in this year's election, but a blue explosion in Hennepin County was the driving force in delivering the state for former Vice President Joe Biden</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://www.startribune.com/joe-biden-cements-dfl-s-strength-in-minnesota-cities-big-suburbs/572974032/">https://www.startribune.com/joe-biden-cements-dfl-s-strength-in-minnesota-cities-big-suburbs/572974032/</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Nov 2020 13:09:17 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 293810 at http://dagblog.com There were celebrations in http://dagblog.com/comment/293811#comment-293811 <a id="comment-293811"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/293804#comment-293804">bet everyone in Minnesota saw</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>There were celebrations in Minneapolis after Biden won</p> <blockquote> <p>The announcement that Joe Biden was projected to defeat President Donald Trump Saturday has sparked celebrations around Minneapolis — and in several other cities across the country. Biden supporters began to gather shortly after several news organizations projected the former vice president as the winner of the 2020 presidential race, a little after 11 a.m.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://www.minnpost.com/elections/2020/11/photos-celebrations-erupt-around-minneapolis-after-biden-declared-winner/">https://www.minnpost.com/elections/2020/11/photos-celebrations-erupt-around-minneapolis-after-biden-declared-winner/</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Nov 2020 13:08:16 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 293811 at http://dagblog.com bet everyone in Minnesota saw http://dagblog.com/comment/293804#comment-293804 <a id="comment-293804"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/293802#comment-293802">this is why I argued about</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>bet everyone in Minnesota saw this on their local tv news; this is what happens when after you have rioting over police abuse and then you have a liberal mayor supposedly taking care of the situation; give them an arm and they want a leg.</p> <div class="media_embed" height="315px" width="560px"><iframe allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gpJGwPBZaMs" width="560px"></iframe></div> <p>in the middle of a pandemic yet. Didn't "they" already burn down a police station and a bunch of stores, Edna? Nothing's ever enough for them, will never compromise on anything.</p> <p>Biden stressed one thing over and over and over and over in his campaign above all else: willing to work with the other side, unity, healing,,not fighting. a president for all the people. </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:27:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 293804 at http://dagblog.com this is why I argued about http://dagblog.com/comment/293802#comment-293802 <a id="comment-293802"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/former-minnesota-democratic-leader-quits-party-33085">Former Minnesota Democratic leader quits party</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>this is why I argued about rmrd's changing of this NYTimes headline</p> <p><a href="http://dagblog.com/link/despite-protests-biden-wom-minnesota-suburbs-because-trump-s-racism-33052">http://dagblog.com/link/despite-protests-biden-wom-minnesota-suburbs-because-trump-s-racism-33052</a></p> <p>because I had read some about Minnesota statehouse already and knew he was misreading a Biden win. Downticket they want Biden bi-partisan types. Lots of local GOP are preferable to the votes there, for whatever reason. </p> <p>These midwest states do not like the type of government they see in the big liberal cities of their own states. They don't like long political correctness discussions in city council. Not their thing. Care about schools and law and order being able to take the wife to Applebee's and the farmers getting good prices for crops.</p> <p>What this means:the Dems don't get to redistrict. And redistricting is the key to Dems more easily winning the national offices. That's the first step to get out of the wilderness.</p> <p>You cannot push the ranting woke shit on a local level outside of urban areas.. Doesn't work, just that simple. Doesn't even work in a lot of areas of California! Those who lost not just their home but whole towns they grew up in don't give a damn about that shit, don't want to hear it. </p> <p>The mayor of Minneapolis is a liberal to most people in Minnesota. But all summer (mostly white) college students protested against him and changed "shame!" because he wouldn't interfere in the police situation because legally he could not. The rest of Minnesota isn't interested in becoming that sort of place. Same as in Wisconsin, they don't want to be Milwaukee nor Madison (god forbid! <a href="https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/wisconsin/2020/06/24/hans-christian-hegs-abolitionist-statue-toppled-madison-what-know/3248692001/">They even tear down statues of abolitionists there.</a>)</p> <p>Across geographically larger governed areas than cities, you get power <em>first </em>with moderation. After you get power, you can try to move the Overton window (either left or right, I might add). Not before! You'll never get power that way. </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Nov 2020 09:09:13 +0000 artappraiser comment 293802 at http://dagblog.com