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counter by Prof. of Politics

artappraiser — Tue, 01 Dec 2020 05:50:33 +0000

In reply to Political lying as tribal signaling

counter by Prof. of Politics at Princeton, expertise in protest, statistics, race & agenda seeding:

This model is half-right: elaborate displays of loyalty, like lying, do signal in-group allegiance. What it misses is that the costly signal for those on the right is *not* supporting Trump’s false claims. Those who defect risk everything from in-group shunning to death threats. https://t.co/gVeA5WctFh
— Omar Wasow (@owasow) November 30, 2020

One Republican election clerk “found herself the target of profane and threatening emails and telephone calls, and while she took comfort that she was safe because her husband is a sheriff’s deputy, they nonetheless upgraded the security system at home.” https://t.co/aSOctEn8s1
— Omar Wasow (@owasow) November 30, 2020

Since Fox ”called the race for Mr. Biden, Trump supporters have chanted ‘Fox News sucks!’ at demonstrations in Arizona and Washington, and its ratings have fallen well below pre-election levels.” https://t.co/hR9PP51qVu
— Omar Wasow (@owasow) November 30, 2020

Why back false claims?

Chris Ruddy is a ”revenue-minded cynic for whom the substance of programming is just a path to money & power.”

“Newsmax’s prime-time ratings, which averaged 58,000 before Election Day, soared to 1.1 million afterward for top shows”https://t.co/K6GDOuGgja
— Omar Wasow (@owasow) November 30, 2020

Why lie? Why, like Lindsey Graham or Ted Cruz, switch from Trump critic to sycophant? When partisanship structures much of one’s life, the social, political and financial costs of defecting from deeply embedded networks is enormous.
— Omar Wasow (@owasow) November 30, 2020

Why lie? It pays.

“President Trump’s political operation has raised more than $150 million since Election Day, using a blizzard of misleading appeals about the election to shatter fundraising records set during the campaign…” https://t.co/iEafW0HGWA
— Omar Wasow (@owasow) December 1, 2020

Interesting discussion continues in replies with Wasow participating

The Bulwark and the Lincoln

artappraiser — Tue, 01 Dec 2020 01:05:00 +0000

In reply to Political lying as tribal signaling

The Bulwark and the Lincoln Project would like to see something done about the Stupid Lies Tribe:

Chris Krebs defended democracy. Now Trump’s attorney wants him killed? https://t.co/ONpIiDfol1
— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) December 1, 2020

Ken White suggestion:

The State Bar is almost never the right vehicle to address lawyers acting badly in media, but I submit this is an exception — calling for the death of someone who could plausibly be a witness in the litigation you’re helping to run.https://t.co/uBKdBR5TEV
— WhatKindOfCourtSystemIsHat (@Popehat) December 1, 2020

arta suggestion: what took you so long? I've been waiting for someone to do something about Joe di Genova & Victoria Toesing since the Clinton impeachment.

This retweet by the president

artappraiser — Tue, 01 Dec 2020 00:30:28 +0000

In reply to Political lying as tribal signaling

This retweet by the president is sure to delight Mitch McConnell and the NRSC! pic.twitter.com/nuEVSEziSz
— Yashar Ali (@yashar) December 1, 2020

Senator Murkowski also just

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 23:07:40 +0000

In reply to Political lying as tribal signaling

Senator Murkowski also just made it clear she's not part of Tribe Stupid Lies:

GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski calls on Trump to concede. “I think he should concede, I think the race is over,” she just told me.

Asked if she voted for Trump, Murkowski wouldn’t say. “I don’t think that’s the pertinent question of the day.”
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) November 30, 2020

but wait, I didn't realize

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 22:46:56 +0000

In reply to National Review dropping out

but wait, I didn't realize there's more--the editors of National Review speak as well and Twitter's news feed is featuring it with this intro

Editors of the well-known conservative magazine National Review write a piece titled ‘Trump’s Disgraceful Endgame’ criticizing the outgoing president for his post-election behavior and the ‘petulant refusal of one man to accept the verdict of the American people’

Trump’s Disgraceful Endgame | https://t.co/Ms27AXTErP pic.twitter.com/uIYux9RNUc
— National Review (@NRO) November 30, 2020

National Review dropping out

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:52:53 +0000

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National Review dropping out of Tribe Stupid too:

Even @NatReview, which rarely meets Big GOP Lies it doesn't actively promote, has had enough: "It’s hard to find much that is remotely true in the president’s Twitter feed these days. It is full of already-debunked claims and crackpot conspiracy theories." https://t.co/plSJW4q4PE
— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) November 30, 2020

some are starting to try to

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 03:57:23 +0000

In reply to Political lying as tribal signaling

some are starting to try to climb out of Tribe Stupid:

Love this hashtag from a Republican member of Congress. #stopthestupid, indeed. https://t.co/Y3RRRdXzWZ
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) November 30, 2020