dagblog - Comments for "US Intervenes as Venezuela Prepares for High Stakes Election"

who would like to be our

ocean-kat — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 07:10:53 +0000

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who would like to be our friends are being starved. Another thing is that those people are being deprived of medicine.

You submit an article ostensibly for discussion and then don't want to discuss it. You want to discuss all sorts of complaints not mentioned in the article and expect us to guess what those complaints are and address them. Please quote the part of the article that discusses people being starved. Please quote the part of the article that discusses people are being deprived of medicine. The article you submitted is trash. I pointed out with links several of the ways it's trash. So I get why you don't want to discuss it. What I don't get is why you submitted it in the first place.

I discussed the article you

ocean-kat — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:59:28 +0000

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I discussed the article you submitted about the Venezuelan election. I even discussed sanctions that I guessed you wanted to discuss even though it wasn't discussed in the article. Frankly I don't think you're capable of rational dialog so I don't want to attempt it anymore. If I have something to say about an article you submit I'll address the article. But I'm done with you.

Try just a little more for

A Guy Called LULU — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:38:45 +0000

In reply to throwing out insults.

Try just a little more for rational dialog. Point out the insult that you came right back at while refusing to answer questions that your part of the dialog begged..

Who is "the U.S."??? We are

A Guy Called LULU — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:30:01 +0000

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Who is "the U.S."??? We are in a major transition here. I'd venture nothing much is being done right now.

Who is the U.S. and what is it doing now? Something that is being done is people who are no danger to us and who would like to be our friends are being starved. Another thing is that those people are being deprived of medicine. That is a short part of a long list of murderous actions that require good justification, or else accommodations to a perverted psychopathic national policy as I see it. That is I guess, unless you can justify it?

throwing out insults.

ocean-kat — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:25:35 +0000

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throwing out insults.

You fucking insulted me you little shit. Like you always fucking do. So I came right back at you. I tried to have a rational dialog with you one more time only for you to prove once again you're not fucking capable of it.

You quote part of a sentence

A Guy Called LULU — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:12:37 +0000

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You quote part of a sentence that is a question and present it as a statement and then accuse me of either lying or being stupid. I did not make an accusation about your beliefs, I asked a simple question, and you are weaseling out of answering by throwing out insults. Are you afraid to say that you support the murderous policies that have evolved over several administrations but that you do think they are justified? Anyone with half the comprehension you claim you have can recognize, even if only because of the question mark, that I asked you a simple question which is totally relevant to our exchange and in that context totally fair to ask. I ask it again: Do you think that U.S. policy on this subject is smart, legal, ethical, moral, humane, etc, etc, ...? Any of the above? Don't wimp out, take a stand and own up to your own beliefs.

yeah no way are they

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:01:51 +0000

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yeah no way are they following Trump's lead, no way! Not even Netanyahu. They play him, not the other way around.

"You seem unaware of what an

ocean-kat — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:34:53 +0000

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"You seem unaware of what an outcast our country has become as far as international affairs"

And yet for all the disagreements the EU has with Trump they have continued to condemn Maduro's election as fraudulent and added or continued sanctions during Trump's presidency. The EU recently voted to continue sanctions for another year to Nov 21. The article claims they're just following Trump's lead which is ridiculous given what a pariah he was in Europe.

When in 2013, Venezuela

ocean-kat — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:24:38 +0000

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When in 2013, Venezuela elected President Nicolás Maduro and not the US-backed candidate, the US declared that election fraudulent and refused to recognize the winner.

While I think Chavez was democratically elected and it seems possible Maduro was in 2013 I think subsequent elections were fraudulent. While it was premature I support the US claiming the following elections fraudulent.

Yet this is the electoral system that former US President Jimmy Carter proclaimed to be “the best in the world.”

“In 2012, I applauded Venezuela’s use of electronic voting machines as exemplary in the world,” said former U.S. President Jimmy Carter. “That characterization since has been misused by Nicolas Maduro to suggest a broad validation of Venezuela’s election system as a whole and of subsequent elections that The Carter Center did not observe. In fact, The Carter Center and others routinely have expressed concern about government interference in recent electoral processes.

I"m conflicted about the use of sanctions when a leader claims power and rules as a dictator. Is there any action democracies like the US, EU and GB can take beyond talk? It's either empty words or sanctions.

"you respond every time I bring it up but you just don't have enough information"

You're either lying or you have reading comprehension problems. My responses varied with the links you submitted.

Who is "the U.S."??? We are

artappraiser — Mon, 30 Nov 2020 05:20:36 +0000

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Who is "the U.S."??? We are in a major transition here. I'd venture nothing much is being done right now. I would like to remind that general Trump messaging was that the CIA and the State Dept. and the Pentagon were enemies of the state, which was him, and he was always trying to tamp down whatever they wanted to do. We are going to move from "crazytown" chaos to an actual foreign policy again, but it's going to take some time.

I find it absurd to talk about it as if there is some kind of continuum or even that our country is taken that seriously in world affairs the last couple of years. Anything we were doing was surely nonsensical and will be different under Biden but it won't happen right away as domestic policy is super priority and the relevant executive departments have been devastated by Trumpie loyalists who didn't know how to do anything even if they wanted to and these have to be rebuilt with civil servants to replace those idiot loyalists and career people under them who resigned in disgust.

You seem unaware of what an outcast our country has become as far as international affairs and that was before our reaction to covid made it ten times worse.