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My "bars and restaurants"

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 03:20:21 +0000

My "bars and restaurants" comment was a split between here (where at least some of the bars will come back, as it's in the culture, even tonight, on all the TVs as well) to infrequent visits to the US pre-pandemic and pre-Trump (so data is invalid, as the bars and people i was talking with die off)

another good example right

artappraiser — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 20:47:41 +0000

In reply to Whatever happens going

another good example right here, how everyone is talking past politics which doesn't matter a hill of beans in this crazy world or the world going forward; the whole education field has been turned upside down:

Lots of students will be worse off due to school closures. Unfortunately most of the advocates of those closures don't honestly acknowledge this, you can be for a policy move but still recognize its downsides. https://t.co/cC0hm0ybPO
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 7, 2020

and what about those kids in "college" right now, or what they are calling college? How are they going to turn out? Will be voting in 2022?

What are teachers and their unions going to be like after this?

What about HEALTH CARE? A major part of the world economy. Is it ever going to be the same again with the same people working in it? NO.

How about those lines for food banks?

How about having six months back rent owed hanging over your head?

And everyone is worried about old urban vs. rural voting divisions? PUHLEEZ, hello, wake up, see what's been happening.

what is a good thing: so many

artappraiser — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 20:00:59 +0000

In reply to Whatever happens going

what is a good thing: so many voted, they knew it was a revolutionary time. Political people have to drill down in this data. AND FORGET all PAST elections. This data + going forward data is all that matters.

Going forward data will include: what Joe & Kamala did. Good or bad, what say ye?

The "knocking on doors" thing is about how AOC got little old Latino ladies who don't use the internet to vote for the nice Latino girl who came to the door instead of the old white Dem machine guy. How long are those little old Latino ladies going to be around? AOC is also skilled at using all the internet tools known to the youthful masses.Which doors is she going to knock on in two years? (Also, if she loses, will there still be exactly the same kind of bartending jobs she used to use to make a living before? Probably not! She'd probably not be qualified anymore!)

Whatever happens going

artappraiser — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 19:47:56 +0000

In reply to Maybe Trump is killing the

Whatever happens going forward depends on elite educated millennials, and a reminder: they were educated different than us older generations. And now their lives have been seriously fucked up by, first. the weird populism, most exhibited by 4 yrs. of Trumpism with postmodern technique of unreality, the likes of which none of us have seen before. In the U.S. many ot them have massive student debt.

And then the kicker: coronavirus lockdown worldwide. Totally wrecking or upending many huge areas of business as we know it.

There's been a lot of movement of demographics out of urban areas. Will that reverse? What will happen after air travel comes back? Will people still zip allover the place for business? Did people get used to working at home or will there be a reaction against that?

Joe Biden's campaign is a one time thing, meant just for this time, meeting the needs of this time and these emergencies. A little stability on offer for everyone to catch their breath.

As many more boomers die during Joe's presidency, perhaps less easy to foretell the future than anytime since WWII.

That thought struck me hard just now reading you guys still basically re-litigating 2016, electoral college, being held hostage to over on Flavius' thread as if things are still the same. That's over. It's a whole new world. We had:a CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC! And a big generation is going to start exiting this planet soon no matter how they die. Leaving a huge fucked up generation behind that will have quite different priorities.

Example: you say: "restaurants and bars". Many of those are permanently closing as we write! End of next year, whole new ones are going to be taking their place. OR maybe not.

This period is transitional. Only one thing for sure: there will be new rules, and soon, not far down the road. All you gotta do is imagine yourself in the hotel business, from CEO to maid. What do you do now?

Maybe Trump is killing the

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 10:36:00 +0000

In reply to RIP Fox News boycott

Maybe Trump is killing the era of social media - perhaps instead of a new platform we just need to get back to the bars and cafes and talk to each other. (yes, i get the irony - doing my best in between lockdowns, plus 2nd language to deal with). Oddly, i have no problem talking to conservatives at the bar.

RIP Fox News boycott

artappraiser — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 09:42:51 +0000

In reply to How Joe Biden’s Digital Team Tamed the MAGA Internet

RIP Fox News boycott
— Bill Scher (@billscher) December 6, 2020

Me in May: "Why It Doesn’t Matter That Trump Is Beating Biden Online"https://t.co/DJ5zANXD9R

NYT today: "the bed-wetters were wrong. Mr. Biden won ... despite having many fewer followers and much less engagement on social media than Mr. Trump..."https://t.co/al7JSRX93A
— Bill Scher (@billscher) December 6, 2020

edit to add--Scher also retweeted this related:

I’m not happy that a Democrat will be in the White House but I am happy that a winning Presidential campaign basically consisted of a giant middle finger to Twitter. https://t.co/bcdCiiyXDM
— Jeremy Senderowicz (@jsende) December 6, 2020

and this at the same time:

If you ask “what went wrong” to a bunch of Dem Party operatives & candidates, you will invariably hear “lack of door-knocking.”

But without evidence that surviving swing district Ds had better door knock operations than losing ones, I wouldn’t assume that to be true. pic.twitter.com/2sE7giipmf
— Bill Scher (@billscher) December 6, 2020