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Number of people shot to

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Dec 2020 18:06:13 +0000

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Number of people shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2017-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Nov 30, 2020

TAKE A QUICK LOOK at the graphic at the top, partly interactive so it's not easily pastable.

Posting a link here so I can easily find it. Clearly, the hysteria over this during this year has been just that, hysteria-temporary insanity, caused by seeing actually videos of death.

[edit 12/24/20 to correct faulty link; original comment was 12/09/2020 - 8:27pm]

Black ministers’ message in

artappraiser — Sun, 13 Dec 2020 18:18:03 +0000

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Black ministers’ message in South Dallas: We need our police | Editorial https://t.co/gNEbDMeZma
— Dallas Morning News (@dallasnews) December 13, 2020

Well if you want to know why

artappraiser — Sat, 12 Dec 2020 10:25:07 +0000

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Well if you want to know why DC doesn't think the best response to this is a social worker and why the city mostly passed over the defund the police stuff https://t.co/YHyy1Pdda4
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 12, 2020

(The only defund DC did was to shift some school police officer contracts to third party security, which, who knows if that's an improvement) https://t.co/nI3jr29cYj
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 12, 2020

edit to add end tweet on thread that I missed

Police got there within two minutes and arrested six people without hurting anybody. That's a pretty professional police force. Why would DC want to defund it? https://t.co/4aaOKSlOeG
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 12, 2020

Yglesias retweeted this

artappraiser — Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:54:23 +0000

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Yglesias retweeted this interpretation of his article:

Good read from @mattyglesias. The whole argument we’ve been having since the election misses the point—the goal of the sloganeers was police abolition, not electing Dems. It crowded out every other slogan and less radical ideas got backfilled into it.https://t.co/OkmEdXiwBi
— Tynan (@TynanPants) December 10, 2020

graph 1960-2020,

artappraiser — Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:46:17 +0000

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graph 1960-2020,

Police spending as a share of state & local government. pic.twitter.com/ltsZZ9zAzk
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 11, 2020

related thread from mid

artappraiser — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 22:15:56 +0000

In reply to "Defund police is a bad idea, not a bad slogan": Yglesias

related thread from mid-August including Biden bashing from "progressives" for saying similar things

BIDEN SAID, ‘MOST COPS ARE GOOD.’ BUT PROGRESSIVES WANT SYSTEMIC CHANGE.

By artappraiser on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 9:41pm |

a reminder that Biden's

artappraiser — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 21:23:29 +0000

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a reminder that Biden's position appears to be pretty much the same, though he hasn't really confronted the more radical BLM groups, he said police need more money, not less, so he's basically against the whole concept of "defund", straight out saying “I’m the only one who’s talked about increasing police budgets.”

BIDEN NBC TOWN HALL OCT. 5: QUESTION ON POLICING

Josh Marshall replying to his

artappraiser — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 21:11:37 +0000

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Josh Marshall replying to his tweet of the article and Yglesias' reply

As we know people mean greatly different things by abolish or defund the police. But it's remarkable the degree to which many people do not realize that actually getting rid of police forces is a shocking and completely unsupportable idea to the vast majority of the country.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) December 7, 2020

Yes. And also as I detail in the piece, the specific Minneapolis activist group that channeled outrage about Floyd into “defund” as a mantra is clearly committed to abolitionism.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 7, 2020