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One of the more interesting

artappraiser — Mon, 28 Dec 2020 19:27:20 +0000

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One of the more interesting realities of “Trump-ism” is how effectively R’s in Washington pushed back on Trump’s more populist instincts (the most recent being his $2K gambit). He didn’t blow up NAFTA. He didn’t get his big infrastructure bill.
— amy walter (@amyewalter) December 28, 2020

The lasting legacy of Trump-ism will be its emphasis on grievance. The fighting isn’t a means to an end. It is the entire point.
— amy walter (@amyewalter) December 28, 2020

(found retweeted by Maggie Haberman today)

talking like a anti-GOP

artappraiser — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:52:04 +0000

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talking like a anti-GOP activist himself, just like in 2016:

Someones is... https://t.co/yomPgc7FBS
— Titus (@TitusNation) December 23, 2020

a reminder that this is

artappraiser — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 09:36:04 +0000

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a reminder that this is international:

Anglo-American pluto-populists "have to convince a large proportion of the population to vote against its economic interests by focusing on culture and identity," writes @martinwolf_ . This formula is successful, and will continue to be https://t.co/L0KId1mvL0
— Anne Applebaum (@anneapplebaum) December 23, 2020

also "yellow jackets" in France, ultra conservatives in former East Germany, etc..

Also: @RepAndyBiggsAZ,

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:19:32 +0000

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Also: @RepAndyBiggsAZ, @RepScottPerry
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) December 21, 2020

MAGA? Nixon created the EPA,

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 21 Dec 2020 20:05:43 +0000

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MAGA? Nixon created the EPA, at the time was trying to pull out of Vietnam (100,000+ a year), & desegregate schools, along with visiting Mao to lower the Communist expansionism (it took Mao's visit to Singapore's Chinese leader to really get the profit angle down). Meanwhile Elvis was whack on drugs, spending lots of time on his "golden throne", and perfect fodder for all the greedy Colonel entourage friends he had. Plus a huge Vegas hit, in an amazing about face to his British invasion fade out. (He head The Wrecking Crew behind him, who created the sound behind The Monkees, Nancy Sinatra, Glen Campbell (originally a studio musician who broke out, similar to Leon Russell), on up to Simon & Garfunkel.)

https://time.com/4894301/elvis-president-nixon-photo/

But good to remember Elvis in the 50s... esp. before co-op Ted in the Army.

Make vaccines great again.
— Solo (@AdrianSolo_2021) December 21, 2020

now here is a trivia history

artappraiser — Mon, 21 Dec 2020 19:05:10 +0000

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now here is a trivia history point that is one that I think has very much a moment of equivalence between Nixon and Trump; this was strikingly like Kanye's adoration of Trump:

Fifty years ago today:
Nixon: "You dress kind of strange, don’t you?”
Elvis: "You have your show and I have mine." pic.twitter.com/KXvJY0BLcF
— Michael Beschloss (@BeschlossDC) December 21, 2020

It doesn't have a lot of bigger meaning though, it's simply about major American wack celebs and them sort of betraying the bigger culture of their fans.

On the other hand, the older Elvis really was MAGA before MAGA, down to who most of his fans were in his older incarnation. Partly because of his Memphis underclass background, but for other reasons, too.

That UN vote was choosing

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 20:12:09 +0000

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That UN vote was choosing China over Taiwan. Taiwan just took new steps to assure its independence.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/19/asia/taiwan-submarine-fleet-analysis-...

Bernie's back with "both

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 14:47:05 +0000

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Bernie's back with "both sides do it" - not enough to promise liberal things - have to over promise and be demagogic, even though there's not enough votes to pass anything.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5fde561ac5b607e6348b1b76

I agree.

artappraiser — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 09:14:52 +0000

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I agree.

You got me thinking about personalities---Nixon had a little bit of a victimhood thing but that was all about class and the elites of the time and feeling he had to fight hard, and it was really quite different than Trump, more of an inferiority complex (while Trumps' problem is definitely totally undeserved superiority complex). Nixon could also definitely be cold about demographic groups, thinking of them as lesser human beings, but that's the Machiavellian thing you mention, not like Trump either, who doesn't have the smarts for that, he relies on others to manipulate for him.

Trump really is most strongly defined by his narcissistic disorder to an insane degree, zero empathy. He's learned what gets applause and fans via Pavlovian practice, and some intuition, not from intelligence about and analysis of emotions of others. Nixon was not a narcissist and could show empathy for those he chose to care about.

Nixon and Trump were not

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 07:37:00 +0000

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Nixon and Trump were not similar. Nixon for his Machiavellian plays, including disrupting the Peace Talks, was a deep thinker, and rather uncomfortable with crowds.

Reagan was sometimes a race baiter as per dig whistles in the South via that political operative Lee Atwater, but his message to America was the antithesis of Trump's, and whatever your politics, facing down and dismantling the Soviet Union in Europe was one of the greatest achievents of the last 50 years - as might be noted by great prosperity, spread of Democracy, and decrease in major wars ever since the Wall fell.

Stone is a crook who helped Bush steal the election (the "Brooks Brothers Revolution") and helped use/assist Wikileaks to steal the election. I'm not sure of his fuckery back in Nixon's days, but Nixon didn't create these political beasts, just like Trump didn't make Manafort start overthrowing elections around the world or turn Flynn into a scheming weasel - they exist in a side world all along.