dagblog - Comments for "12 Republican Senators Will Challenge The Electoral College Vote" http://dagblog.com/link/12-republican-senators-will-challenge-electoral-college-vote-33486 Comments for "12 Republican Senators Will Challenge The Electoral College Vote" en Cleta Mitchell has resigned http://dagblog.com/comment/296936#comment-296936 <a id="comment-296936"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296806#comment-296806">Lincoln Project going after</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Cleta Mitchell has resigned from <a href="https://twitter.com/FoleyandLardner?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FoleyandLardner</a>. The firm said in a statement: "Cleta Mitchell has informed firm management of her decision to resign from Foley &amp; Lardner effective immediately." <a href="https://t.co/2peHwUTjOi">https://t.co/2peHwUTjOi</a></p> — Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) <a href="https://twitter.com/nytmike/status/1346568330656833536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>Lincoln Project seems to be specializing in making sure that "ETTD" <img alt="wink" height="23" src="http://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.6/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.png" title="wink" width="23" /></p> <p>Foley &amp; Lardner is basically the most famous and prestigious law firm in Wisconsin.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 05 Jan 2021 23:41:58 +0000 artappraiser comment 296936 at http://dagblog.com Georgia, this is it. Today is http://dagblog.com/comment/296935#comment-296935 <a id="comment-296935"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296806#comment-296806">Lincoln Project going after</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>deleted incorrect paste</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 05 Jan 2021 23:40:45 +0000 artappraiser comment 296935 at http://dagblog.com The Second Confederacy in a http://dagblog.com/comment/296901#comment-296901 <a id="comment-296901"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296897#comment-296897">Chip&#039;s statement while</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The Second Confederacy in a nutshell. Incite violence while bemoaning it.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:22:56 +0000 moat comment 296901 at http://dagblog.com Chip's statement while http://dagblog.com/comment/296897#comment-296897 <a id="comment-296897"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296799#comment-296799">Hilarious, it looks like Chip</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Chip's statement while appearing on Tucker Carlson</p> <blockquote> <p>Rep. <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/topic/chip-roy">Chip Roy</a> (R-Texas) scaremongered Monday about the possibility of <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/republican-party">Republicans</a> losing control of the <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/us-senate">U.S. Senate</a>, claiming the United States would endure a “full-scale hot conflict” as a result.</p> <p>In an appearance on <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/tucker-carlson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tucker Carlson</a>’s <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/fox-news" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fox News</a> show, Roy warned what he believed will happen if <a href="https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/democratic-party">Democrats</a> flip the Senate by winning Tuesday’s runoff elections in Georgia.</p> <p>“What happens tomorrow in Georgia, if we have a Democratically controlled Senate, I mean, we’re now basically at full-scale hot conflict in this country, whereas right now we’re in a cold civil war,” Roy told Carlson.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chip-roy-georgia-runoff-elections-warning_n_5ff419ccc5b6ec8ae0b57c09">https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chip-roy-georgia-runoff-elections-warning_n_5ff419ccc5b6ec8ae0b57c09</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:10:14 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 296897 at http://dagblog.com "Despite Donald Trump’s http://dagblog.com/comment/296855#comment-296855 <a id="comment-296855"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296836#comment-296836">As Charles Blow notes, this</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>"Despite Donald Trump’s efforts to reprise Richard Nixon’s 1968 law-and-order message, Joe Biden defeated him by rolling up big margins in the suburbs of cities like Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia, and Atlanta. It’s true that Biden overwhelmingly carried those cities, but analyses by <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/trump-suburbs-analysis/" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank" title="Harry Enten">Harry Enten</a> of <em>CNN</em> and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/17/upshot/georgia-precinct-shift-suburbs.html" rel="external nofollow" target="_blank" title="Nate Cohn">Nate Cohn</a> at the <em>New York Times</em> show that his net gain of urban votes was lower than Hillary Clinton’s in 2016. The suburbs elected Biden..In Detroit, Biden actually got 1,000 fewer votes than Clinton, while Trump added five thousand..". <a href="https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/11/17/bidens-suburban-victory-should-worry-both-parties-and-the-country/">link</a></p> <p>Republicans targeting, blaming and attempting the disenfranchising of blacks as bogeymen is always a GOP tactic to win. Trump lost in the suburbs.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Jan 2021 23:03:09 +0000 NCD comment 296855 at http://dagblog.com Two points from @Morning_Joe: http://dagblog.com/comment/296854#comment-296854 <a id="comment-296854"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/12-republican-senators-will-challenge-electoral-college-vote-33486">12 Republican Senators Will Challenge The Electoral College Vote</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Two points from <a href="https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Morning_Joe</a>:<br /><br /> 1.) The same problems Boehner had that ultimately drove him out is the same problem McConnell is going to have with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SeditionCaucus?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SeditionCaucus</a><br /><br /> 2.) GOPers who are loyal to <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> will live to regret it when he inevitably turns on them. <a href="https://t.co/wrLIuUKVW7">pic.twitter.com/wrLIuUKVW7</a></p> — Kurt Bardella (@kurtbardella) <a href="https://twitter.com/kurtbardella/status/1346158949846888454?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p>This tweet was a  reminder to me that Joe himself served as a fairly right-wing Republican in the House for four terms. I found it helpful to revisit exactly what that constituted in the 1990's (and note that he did not become an Independent until 6 mos. into the Trump presidency). <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#U.S._House_of_Representatives">Wikipedia</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>Scarborough in 1994</p> <p>In 1994, Scarborough won the Republican Party primary for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_1st_congressional_district" title="Florida's 1st congressional district">Florida's 1st congressional district</a>. The seat had come open when eight-term <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Democratic_Party" title="U.S. Democratic Party">Democratic</a> incumbent <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Hutto" title="Earl Hutto">Earl Hutto</a> announced his retirement. In the general election, Scarborough defeated the Democratic candidate, Pensacola attorney Vince "Vinnie" Whibbs Jr., with 61 percent of the vote. Whibbs was the son of former <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensacola" title="Pensacola">Pensacola</a> mayor <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Whibbs" title="Vince Whibbs">Vince Whibbs</a>. The district had not supported a Democratic candidate for U.S. president since <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_United_States_presidential_election" title="1960 United States presidential election">1960</a>. However, Democratic candidates had continued to hold most local offices well into the 1990s. Scarborough's win coincided with a large Republican wave that allowed the Republicans to take the majority in the House for the first time in 40 years.</p> <p>Proving just how Republican this district was, Scarborough was reelected with 72 percent of the vote in 1996. In 1998 and 2000, he faced only write-in candidates as opposition.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-13">[13]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-14">[14]</a></p> <p>Tenure[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Scarborough&amp;action=edit&amp;section=5&amp;editintro=Template:BLP_editintro" title="Edit section: Tenure">edit</a>]</p> <p>During his congressional career, he received a 95 percent lifetime rating from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Conservative_Union" title="American Conservative Union">American Conservative Union</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-15">[15]</a> He signed the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contract_with_America" title="Contract with America">Contract with America</a>. Scarborough served on the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Armed_Services" title="United States House Committee on Armed Services">Armed Services</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_the_Judiciary" title="United States House Committee on the Judiciary">Judiciary</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Oversight_and_Government_Reform" title="United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform">Government Reform</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Education_and_the_Workforce" title="United States House Committee on Education and the Workforce">Education</a> committees. In 1998 he was named chairman of the Civil Service Committee.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-16">[16]</a></p> <p>Scarborough was one of a group of about 40 freshmen Republican legislators who dubbed themselves the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Federalism" title="New Federalism">"New Federalists"</a> after <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_Papers" title="The Federalist Papers">The Federalist Papers</a></em>. Scarborough was elected political director of the incoming legislators. The New Federalists called for sweeping cuts in the U.S. government, including plans to "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privatization" title="Privatization">privatize</a>, localize, consolidate, [or] eliminate"<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-govexec-17">[17]</a> the Departments of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Commerce" title="United States Department of Commerce">Commerce</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education" title="United States Department of Education">Education</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Energy" title="United States Department of Energy">Energy</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Housing_and_Urban_Development" title="United States Department of Housing and Urban Development">Housing and Urban Development</a>. Gingrich tapped Scarborough to head a Republican task force on education, and Scarborough declared, "Our goal is to get as much money, power, and authority out of Washington and get as much money, power, and authority into the classroom as possible."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-AAP-6">[6]</a> Rep. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich" title="John Kasich">John Kasich</a> (R-Ohio), then chairman of the House Budget Committee, adopted Scarborough's language eliminating the federal Department of Education in the 1996 House Budget Resolution.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-18">[18]</a> The budget passed the House by a vote of 238–193.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-19">[19]</a></p> <p>Scarborough supported a number of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_movements" title="Anti-abortion movements">anti-abortion</a> positions while in Congress, including the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act" title="Unborn Victims of Violence Act">Unborn Victims of Violence Act</a>, that made it a crime to harm a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus" title="Fetus">fetus</a> during the commission of other crimes.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-20">[20]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-21">[21]</a></p> <p>Scarborough sponsored a bill to force the U.S. to withdraw from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations" title="United Nations">United Nations</a> after a four-year transition<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-govexec-17">[17]</a> and voted to make the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting" title="Corporation for Public Broadcasting">Corporation for Public Broadcasting</a> self-sufficient<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-gpopdf-22">[22]</a> by eliminating federal funding. He also voted for the "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)" title="Medicare (United States)">Medicare</a> Preservation act of 1995,"<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-house731-23">[23]</a> which cut the projected growth of Medicare by $270 billion over ten years, and against the "Small Business Job Protection Act of 1996,"<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-house398-24">[24]</a> which raised the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage" title="Minimum wage">minimum wage</a> to $5.15. Scarborough had a conservative voting record on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_conservatism" title="Fiscal conservatism">economic</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservatism" title="Social conservatism">social</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy" title="Foreign policy">foreign policy</a> issues but was seen as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderate" title="Moderate">moderate</a> on <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmentalism" title="Environmentalism">environmental issues</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights" title="Human rights">human rights</a> causes, including supporting the closure of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation" title="Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation">School of the Americas</a> and defending accused terrorist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Berenson" title="Lori Berenson">Lori Berenson</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-AAP-6">[6]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-25">[25]</a></p> <p>While in Congress, Scarborough received a number of awards, including the "Friend of the Taxpayer Award" from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Tax_Reform" title="Americans for Tax Reform">Americans for Tax Reform</a>; the "Guardian of Small Business Award" from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Federation_of_Independent_Business" title="National Federation of Independent Business">National Federation of Independent Business</a>; the "Spirit of Enterprise Award" from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Chamber_of_Commerce" title="United States Chamber of Commerce">United States Chamber of Commerce</a>; the "Taxpayer's Hero Award" from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Against_Government_Waste" title="Citizens Against Government Waste">Citizens Against Government Waste</a>; and the "Guardian of Seniors' Rights Award" from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60_Plus_Association" title="60 Plus Association">60 Plus Association</a>.[<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a></em>]</p> <p>Scarborough was one of the 228 members of the House who voted to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton" title="Impeachment of Bill Clinton">impeach Bill Clinton</a> in December 1998.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-26">[26]</a></p> <p><em>[...committee memberships and electoral history...]</em></p> <p>Resignation[<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Scarborough&amp;action=edit&amp;section=8&amp;editintro=Template:BLP_editintro" title="Edit section: Resignation">edit</a>]</p> <p>In May 2001, five months into his fourth term in Congress, Scarborough announced his intention to resign to spend more time with his children. Of his resignation, Scarborough said, "The realization has come home to me that they're at a critical stage of their lives and I would rather be judged at the end of my life as a father than as a congressman."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-32">[32]</a></p> <p>A <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%27s_1st_congressional_district_special_election,_2001" title="Florida's 1st congressional district special election, 2001">special election</a> was held in October 2001 to replace Scarborough. Since then, Scarborough has contemplated returning to politics several times.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-33">[33]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-34">[34]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-35">[35]</a> On July 11, 2017, Scarborough announced on <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Show_with_Stephen_Colbert" title="The Late Show with Stephen Colbert">The Late Show with Stephen Colbert</a></em> that he was leaving the Republican Party to become an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_politician" title="Independent politician">independent</a>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough#cite_note-36">[36]</a></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Jan 2021 22:52:07 +0000 artappraiser comment 296854 at http://dagblog.com It was fun while it lasted http://dagblog.com/comment/296849#comment-296849 <a id="comment-296849"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296848#comment-296848">Meanwhile - &quot;mixed signals&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It was fun while it lasted but now there's a worldwide pandemic with major earthquake-type effects on the worldwide economy and no one's crystal ball seems to better than anyone else's. I am sure many high up members are now thinking: careful what you ask for--"disruption"--it's being delivered in spades now; enough already.</p> <p>I.E., see Charles Koch story from a couple months back: <em>geeez, me and my brother, we waz wrong! so sorry. can we have normal again, please?</em></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Jan 2021 21:28:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 296849 at http://dagblog.com Meanwhile - "mixed signals" http://dagblog.com/comment/296848#comment-296848 <a id="comment-296848"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296846#comment-296846">at least rmrd has now learned</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Meanwhile - "mixed signals" or "regrets I've had a few"?<br /></p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Over the last four years, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce PAC gave money to 10 of the 12 Senate Republicans who plan to challenge Biden's Electoral College victory. <a href="https://t.co/E33ojVCMnR">https://t.co/E33ojVCMnR</a></p> — Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) <a href="https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1346160675090034689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Jan 2021 21:16:36 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 296848 at http://dagblog.com at least rmrd has now learned http://dagblog.com/comment/296846#comment-296846 <a id="comment-296846"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296843#comment-296843">So you&#039;re gonna keep singing</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>at least rmrd has now learned enough to say GOP wants to suppress "black <em>URBAN</em>" vote instead of "the black vote". I found the Charles Blow op-ed to be both racist and out of touch. Does Charles really think the GOP frets about skin color all the time? No, study up on demographics these days, Charles. They are more than happy to chase any BIPOC surburbans or rurals. AND THE KICKER, he thinks they are still the party of "the elites"!!!</p> <p>Give me a break, Charles, you can't have it both ways, they can't be the populist party of Trumpkin Bumpkins and fervently anti-educated-elite and anti-urban and elite at the same time. And besides trying suppress urban vote, suppressing the vote also means giving college students a hard time about voting in college towns, stuff like that.</p> <p>Texas is one excellent example, they were pleased as punch with the high turnout of "minorities" at the polls. Of course they would like to suppress the whole city of Detroit. But Bloomfield Hills? No way, all colors of voters welcome!</p> <p>Blow's entire column struck me as way off base, the whole Jim Crow comparison is absolutely wrong IF you want to talk about what Trump's "populst" GOP is up to, that is. If you want to talk about a decade ago, another story. Really almost shockingly clueless for a NYTimes longtime op-ed writer. Seems like his grievances about the past are blinding him</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:51:44 +0000 artappraiser comment 296846 at http://dagblog.com The 140 House Republicans and http://dagblog.com/comment/296845#comment-296845 <a id="comment-296845"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/296843#comment-296843">So you&#039;re gonna keep singing</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The 140 House Republicans and the 12 Republican Senators are playing to the base. </p> <p>Do you really think they will work with Biden?</p> <p>Imagine how emboldened they will be if they retain both seats in Georgia </p> <p>McConnell did not want the circus.</p> <p>Hawley, Cruz, Johnson et. al. laughed in his face.</p> <p>We will see if any back down after the phone call or a big loss in Georgia </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:26:38 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 296845 at http://dagblog.com