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p.s. both sides do it I fully

artappraiser — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:53:20 +0000

In reply to Laura Ingraham is on Fox News

p.s. both sides do it I fully admit I am sympathetic.

here it makes clearer where

artappraiser — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:46:07 +0000

In reply to Laura Ingraham is on Fox News

here it makes clearer where Fox News is going with this whole thing: law and order politicians vs. allowing protesters to go crazy, and the liberals are against law and order. Which would conveniently appeal to their elderly audience. They can drop the antifa thing and still do it. It's the same old Gingrich Republicanism:

Flashback June 2020: "House Dems Unanimously Block Resolution Condemning Violence and Rioting" https://t.co/cSIC1ISphx
— Tammy Bruce (@HeyTammyBruce) January 7, 2021

SHEESH she can't believe that

artappraiser — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 02:54:00 +0000

In reply to Laura Ingraham is on Fox News

SHEESH she can't believe that, what a sell out panderer to the old Fox News demographic. I do remember when she was once a member of the shining "new young neo-cons" on the cover of the New York Times Magazine, an actual edujamacted person with sophisticated opinions. (Not to mention it was leaked just a day ago that the Proud Boys were promising to do just the opposite!) If I remember correctly I think Bill Kristol may have been a mentor, he must be so embarassed of her!

Laura Ingraham is on Fox News

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 00:14:11 +0000

In reply to So in posting that critique

Laura Ingraham is on Fox News trying to pin some of the blame for violence at the Capitol on antifa pic.twitter.com/ilFjDtdu5J
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 6, 2021

Russia still in Syria & Libya

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 21:16:10 +0000

In reply to Wait, is it British? US?

Russia still in Syria & Libya- how's that working out for human rights & ending the war? Guess it only matters when it's the US involved, even for Assange.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/10/08/after-five-years-of-fighting-in-syr...

Good FP deep dive on Russia in Syria (pdf, 186 pages)

https://www.fpri.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/russias-war-in-syria.pdf

Yeah, if this end within a

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:10:37 +0000

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Yeah, if this end within a year, it'll be right up there with reading all the Harry Potter books or some other faddish phase.

Wait, is it British? US?

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 15:08:06 +0000

In reply to US govt-sponsored website Bellingcat disrupts MH17 trial in Netherlands

Wait, is it British? US? Crowdfunded/kickstarter?Gov funded? They list Soros... All of the above?
Very mysterious of him to switch from BrownMoses to Bellingcat 2 days before MH-17. Of course if he'd known about MH-17 ahead of time, you'd think he'd wait 3 days to launch as a *reaction* to MH-17. What say you, GrayZone? Oh, apparently GrayZone has trouble reading, because below the Jul 15, 2014 post is one from Jul 1, 2014 where they announced the Kickstarter for Bellingcat. Even more suspicious! 2 weeks! THat's 7 times 2 days!
Damning - Eliot Higgins reported on Syria but doesn't speak Arabic! (except his work was looking at video clips & identifying weapons systems, which doesn't quite require Arabic)
More damning - Eliot HIggins' claims ape those by BBC, a Dutch investigative group, Australian news, and pretty much every other normal news joint that looked into it. #FakeNews!!! Damn the Beeb...
And the Joint Task force with Malaysia & Holland & Belgium & Ukraine & Australia was so lazy they just accepted Bellingcat's version without investigating themselves!!!
Guess I could go on & on, but this is far past Bellingcat now, no?
Do you believe Russia stole Crimea & the Azov Sea?
or that they poisoned Navalny and the dissident & daughter in Salisbury?
Do you believe that Manafort gave Kilimnik 2016 polling data in a Ukraine meeting?
Do you believe Marina Butina ran around with the NRA compromising Republicans?
Just trying to baseline your level of disbelief.

In watching that video,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:21:00 +0000

In reply to So in posting that critique

In watching that video, Enjeti's a smarmy asshat. Yes, there are real dangers to validating Laura Ingraham. Might be worth it, but consider how she, Fox & the right are using you at the same time. They are effective propaganda functioning as a GOP policy arm & disinformation unit. Pretending it's just hobnobbing with the other side is naive.

Then there's attacking Flournoy for contending China's our greatest challenge. This is China spending hundreds of billions on Belt and Road expansion around the world, China setting up factories in Xinjiang concentration camps for Muslims (frei Arbeit macht viel Geld), who are building fake islands on the Pacific Ocean, expanding their navy incl subs, and encroaching on other countries' territory.

Then there's attacking Flournoy and Blinken for gasp making money as defense consultants after serving the government for decades at reduced rates as top-of-the-line defense personnel. Presumably she should bake cookies or work at Starbucks rather than help defense corporations do a better job in offering services to the US government. Because next best to pulling all roops from Afghanistan is letting US military operations fail there (along with other places), amirite? Cuz working with European allies to keep Qaddafi from carrying out his promise to wipe out civilians in Benghazi? Bad bad bad.

So that's roughly what Ro Khanna was signing on with for Ingraham's show, work with Ingraham to kneecap a totally Democratic cabinet nominee. Great, dude - I'm sure she'll call in those chits when the time is right. Let's defund the DoD , turn it all over to Peace Nick's and instead use it to stop North Dakota pipeline a, cuz defense is so passé with American aggression on top.

But think of all those insulting terms Enjeti came up with for Rupar. I mean really over-the--top stuff if him being the worst if the worst, what's wrong with Democrats today. Like what? So yeah, smarmy asshat. You heard it here first. Maybe.

Would have to see the link re: protesting the elections.

https://youtu.be/A3IdsooYclQ

and furthermore, they'll

artappraiser — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:05:31 +0000

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and furthermore, they'll probably give two shits, think about it:

When America’s children are adults, they will ask one another, “Where were you during the COVID-19 pandemic?” They may recognize one another, beyond nationality, as the pandemic’s children. https://t.co/bhJNuXlwV5
— The New Yorker (@NewYorker) January 5, 2021

not just musty old stuff but

artappraiser — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:03:17 +0000

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not just musty old stuff but absurd to the point of arguing how many angels can fit on the head of a pin while this is the major international news not to mention this complicating. We are basically living the movie "Independence Day" but there's no one leading the fight against the aliens. I understand that everyone's got their own parlor games and distractions to keep themselves sane, and I don't begrudge if that's their thing, but getting outraged right now about Judith Miller is not my cup of tea, seems about the same as getting outraged about Genghis Kahn, the Cambridge Five or Lee Harvey Oswald. ANCIENT HISTORY! Bring it up again when the whole world is vaccinated and there's like international travel, mass transit, real schools, other health care instead of putting it off, normal childhoods, restaurants bars and cafes, live entertainment business, maybe I'll be interested in relitigating what Obama did with drones or some such.

Edit to add: forget the lies NYTimes and WaPo may have been involved with in the past. Their new job has basically been merely trying to keep up with counting lies from not just leaders but all sectors of society all around the world, barely finding the time and money to debunk some of them.