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Joe Biden retweeted Arnold's

artappraiser — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 06:24:26 +0000

In reply to Wielding Conan sword, Schwarzenegger blasts 'spinelessness' of fellow Republicans after Capitol riot

Joe Biden retweeted Arnold's tweet of his video and it is still at the top of his feed. Arnold tweeted it 17 hrs. ago, I don't know when Joe retweeted it.

(below that Joe tweeted-5 hrs. ago--two short declarative sentences that we need $2,000 checks because $600 is not enough to pay rent and put food on the table. It has gotten 529,000 likes since it was tweeted.)

Ocean-kat, interesting that

artappraiser — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 04:39:13 +0000

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Ocean-kat, interesting that Omar Wasow agrees with us, he's calling it a lynch mob. And he's truly an expert (Asst Prof, Princeton Politics. I study protests, statistics & race). Took his time thinking about it, too, just posted this afternoon--

thread:

To make sense of the pro-Trump attack on the Capitol, many folks have analogized to military conflicts like the War of 1812. A better analogy is rooted in our long history of racial authoritarianism. This wasn’t war, this was a lynch mob. 1/
— Omar Wasow (@owasow) January 10, 2021

Bob Corker speaks (to

artappraiser — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 03:01:12 +0000

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Bob Corker speaks (to Politico, Jan. 10) by Burgess Everett

Forgive Bob Corker if he sounds like he’s going to say, “I told you so.”

The former senator was lonely as a Republican critic of President Donald Trump, beginning in 2017. While most GOP lawmakers kept quiet about their concerns, Corker warned the White House had become an “adult daycare” and that Trump’s Cabinet members “help separate our country from chaos.” He even held a hearing to scrutinize the president’s power to use nuclear weapons.

Corker retired rather than run for a third term in 2018 amid a feud with Trump and potentially tough primary. But after a flood of GOP condemnation of Trump for inciting a deadly riot at the Capitol, the Tennessee Republican says he’s been vindicated [....]

Steve Schmidt says he talked

artappraiser — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 02:14:55 +0000

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Steve Schmidt says he talked to Ahnold about the video and

.@marcorubio He means you. Like for real. We talked about it. https://t.co/gpMUFvyURu
— Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) January 10, 2021

Great speech. Thanks for the

NCD — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 01:20:16 +0000

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Great speech. Thanks for the post and links.

If Trump had been reelected our democracy sword may have been melted in the fires of Trump Tower. Thanks to Joe Biden for taking on the task and successfully defeating the authoritarian demagogue and his Party of grifters, apparatchiks, nutjobs, bigots, idiots and sycophants.

Thanks to everyone who voted to rid us of the malevolent narcissist.

I can also conspiracize on

artappraiser — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 00:58:47 +0000

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I can also conspiracize on the matter, bias verification style, as well, if you like! As soon as we start to see more and more of these photos and videos of the Cap cops acting bravely instead of videos and photos showing mostly what looks like Trumpies welcoming other Trumpies, I start thinking, why are these in supportive of what Cap cops did almost all coming out AFTER the ones that make them look bad? Like in two groups, almost!

And then on CNN they are talking about the arrested stormer Doug Jensen, how he appears to have been one of the worst major instigators and how he attacked a cop inside. And how he has been arrested and interrogated. Then they took a break and when they came back they announced and showed the beating video, stating that it was new and doing the warning that it is its disturbing but the public needs to see it. AND it was then I thought: BINGO, the FBI has leads in many citizen-offered videos of crimes against cops, they keep those in particular off the internet until they have someone in the video in custody. Because they want to get the interrogated to turn in other names in the video, but they don't want those other gusy still at large to be tipped off. After they got any names they could get from a perp, they turn it over to CNN et. al. to show the public.

That's my "story" so far. But I am not sticking to it, hah! I think it's all still a "developing." But I am sure of two things: almost everyone made wrong assumptions about the initial images. Second: I know it's common for FBI to operate exactly the way I described.

Certainly you go with what

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 00:37:38 +0000

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Certainly you go with what works. If you're outmanned, you use insurgency/guerrilla style, out-of-the-box thinking.
Like the cop's headfake that got the crowd going the wrong direction from the Senate chambers. Small diversions in such a situation are worth more than counterproductive confrontations. So this isn't about what the cops on-site did - it's why there wasn't more support staged & then deployed quickly, especially with the increase to 30k protesters.

in the one video to me there

artappraiser — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 00:29:15 +0000

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in the one video to me there is a suggestion that may have been tactical--I actually think it is at the beginning of the long one that you posted--before the beating one came out I was already pondering that possibility. Especially since I kept seeing more and more apparent conflicting behavior in the videos. The scene: is a line of Cap cops just standing in a row, almost at like attention, inside a corridor. And protesters are filing past them, these ones noisily but relatively peacefully. And the cops don't move against them physically at all. But they just keep repeating "you are not allowed" several times, like robots. Too strange, I first thought.!

Then I thought about other Cap cops pretty violently physically struggling with protesters to set up barricades at roughly the same time, at side doors. And others waving in lines of people at one central door.

Then I read the best "what happened" stories, like WaPo's. And they tell of a sweep of the building to get all congresspersons and their staff in the secure space before inciting more violence. And then after that, an effort all at once to get everyone in the main hall back out.

With a ovefrwhelmed too small force, waiting for reinforcements, doesn't that sound like a plan? Doesn't it also sound like the the technique of kettling used on street protesters. And trying to calm down the ones inside to keep them from really getting wild? The are not encouraging but trying to keep further chaos to ensue.

Perhaps overdoing the 9/11 comparisons, but this almost reminded me of the Flight 93 passengers plotting to takeover the cockpit. It's like, most of them teamed up in the midst of chaos and made a plan the do the best they could. Here, inflaming things further would really make things worse, especially after tear gas failed to deter many.

Except some cops let them

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 23:44:56 +0000

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Except some cops let them slip through, which might have happened even if prepared, elsewhere they fought. And it seemed *maybe* if the more intent militia guys got quicker where they were going - perhaps tricked or held back by cops & security while most members were hustled off - they might have gotten to some Congress members, and that could have turned very ugly with different scenarios. But still we obviously don't know why this escalated w/o obvious preparations, even tho the permitted # was increased to 30k, heightening the risks and needed deployments.

This is why I don't think

ocean-kat — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 23:43:29 +0000

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This is why I don't think attempted coup describes what happened very well. Calling it that gives it reasoning and purpose and power it didn't have. It was an unruly mob that started a riot that was successful only because the police were woefully unprepared. A couple thousand more cops and they would have been dispersed without any trouble.