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Justin Amash gearing up to

artappraiser — Mon, 18 Jan 2021 07:20:49 +0000

In reply to Fractured by Trump, the G.O.P. Can’t Agree on a Way Back to Power

Justin Amash gearing up to split off some voters, see tweets posted for several days around these two:

The GOP isn’t getting better anytime soon. If you’re a Republican who’s had enough, join me in the Libertarian Party. Reach out to me. I’m happy to answer questions about making the switch. We’re readying to make a big impact over the next few years.
— Justin Amash (@justinamash) January 14, 2021

I’m committed to making the Libertarian Party a place for people of all backgrounds, with a diversity of views, commonly dedicated to fundamental American principles like individual liberty, the Rule of Law, and divided powers. Help reshape politics by joining us at @LPNational.
— Justin Amash (@justinamash) January 15, 2021

meanwhile Senator Lindsey

artappraiser — Mon, 18 Jan 2021 00:09:36 +0000

In reply to Ross Douhat: Could Mitch

meanwhile Senator Lindsey Graham hath penned a letter to The Honorable Charles Schumer (and advertised it on Twitter):

My letter to Democratic Leader Schumer.

The Senate should vote to dismiss the article of impeachment once it is received in the Senate. We will be delaying indefinitely, if not forever, the healing of this great Nation if we do otherwise. pic.twitter.com/fjVcf7iVPf
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) January 17, 2021

Ross Douhat: Could Mitch

artappraiser — Sun, 17 Jan 2021 22:54:42 +0000

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Ross Douhat: Could Mitch McConnell Get to Yes? Why the Republican leader should be tempted by the Senate’s opportunity to bar Trump from running for president again. Jan. 16 @ NYTimes.com

[....]The point wouldn’t be to punish Trump or alter the majority leader’s public reputation or create a moment for the history books. It would be to use a power that Senate Republicans have now, and will presumably never have again — the power to guarantee that Trump cannot be a candidate for president four years from now, which can be accomplished by a simple majority vote following a Senate conviction.

As a political move this would be a gamble whose costs can be easily foreseen. It would cast Trump as a martyr to the perfidious Republican establishment, and so struck down, he could potentially emerge more influential (with some of his supporters, at least) than before. Some of the scenarios I wrote about earlier this week, where the aftermath of the Jan. 6 riot actually breaks the G.O.P., could follow from Trump’s conviction by the Senate: A surge of grass-roots rage, a raft of Trumpist primary campaigns against reality-based Republicans, and eventually the nomination of Don Jr., and a real schism, in 2024.

However, one of the striking things about Trump’s popular power is that it hasn’t been easily shared or transferred. There are various Trump-y figures flitting around the House of Representatives (from Matt Gaetz to Marjorie Taylor Greene, the QAnon congresswoman) and various senators and governors who have adopted bits and pieces from the Trumpist potpourri. But there’s nothing like a coherent Trumpist movement in the party, the way the Tea Party movement existed for a time as a reasonably coherent force. Trump’s inner circle has retained the misfit-toys quality that characterized his closest support in 2016, and lately it has shrunk enough to barely fill a presidential helicopter.

Meanwhile, long before his electoral defeat most of the Trumpist policy agenda had been diminished or discarded, reducing Trumpism’s animating purpose to its leader’s mere occupation of the White House — which enabled his supporters to “win” against a baffled, freaked-out liberal establishment by simply holding power in defiance of every norm and expectation [....]

Both observations are true.

moat — Sun, 17 Jan 2021 16:44:44 +0000

In reply to Ben Sasse; Rand Paul:

Both observations are true. Paul is one of the cowards Sasse is referring to.

Ben Sasse; Rand Paul:

artappraiser — Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:32:26 +0000

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Ben Sasse vs. Rand Paul:

"We can be the party of Eisenhower, or the party of the conspiracist Alex Jones. We can applaud Officer Goodman or side with the mob he outwitted. We cannot do both."

-- @BenSasse:https://t.co/PGvOE8Azba
— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) January 17, 2021

Sasse: The insurrection was “not a protest gone awry or the work of ‘a few bad apples...It is the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the Republican Party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardice.” https://t.co/7QSd2SAalN
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 17, 2021

.@RandPaul: One-third of Republicans will leave party if GOP senators go along with convicting Trump.https://t.co/V0EElzzRKw
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) January 16, 2021

He brings up valid points. https://t.co/Pkshn2RVcG
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) January 17, 2021

a writer at Reason complains

artappraiser — Sun, 17 Jan 2021 02:44:39 +0000

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a writer at Reason complains that in the AZ GOP the that the Trump-and-like-politician cultists have totally taken over, leaving libertarians nowhere to go:

The organization has devolved from skepticism toward government to veneration of politicians.https://t.co/E5boobsmfG
— reason (@reason) January 17, 2021

If you're not going to pay

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 06:11:46 +0000

In reply to I told you why I created a

If you're not going to pay ttention to hers or argue with her, why are you over on her thread arguing with her?

Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-Wash.):

artappraiser — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 02:31:20 +0000

In reply to Fractured by Trump, the G.O.P. Can’t Agree on a Way Back to Power

Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-Wash.): Trump “did not strongly condemn the attack nor did he call in reinforcements when our officers were overwhelmed,” Newhouse said in a statement explaining why he would vote for impeachment. https://t.co/s0W3u8tExO
— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) January 16, 2021

I told you why I created a

rmrd0000 — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 01:58:40 +0000

In reply to who are you talking to? not

I told you why I created a separate post

Therefore I did not pay full attention to your post

I am not going to waste time arguing with you

Some members of the Democratic Party do not trust some members of the Republican Party

That is amazing

Those Democrats are not saying that they have policy differences

They suspect that some Republicans plotted to harm them

Mikie Sherrill, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Jerrold Nadler, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, all mention suspicions

Ali Alexander said that he had Republican help.

I am not cherry-picking words

Read what Pelosi said

I do not see the above facts as leading to a normally functioning Congress

"Trump's words have ignited

artappraiser — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 01:53:40 +0000

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"Trump's words have ignited the worst parts of this country ... What happened down in Washington last week just makes me ill."- Jeffrey, Republican from Pennsylvania pic.twitter.com/8eodqsgxfF
— Republican Voters Against Trumpism (@RVAT2020) January 16, 2021

Thank you for doing the right thing, @TomRiceSC7. https://t.co/0NvM2Jq1xg
— Republican Accountability Project (@AccountableGOP) January 14, 2021

"We must never allow this to happen again and we must hold all who assisted accountable ... But most of all, we must hold Trump accountable. And that starts now."- Brandon from Kansas pic.twitter.com/ZFNUkfmZd5
— Republican Voters Against Trumpism (@RVAT2020) January 15, 2021

"I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That is the same oath that the members of Congress take, the oath which most in the Republican party violated." - Keith from Kansas pic.twitter.com/43dQCVPC64
— Republican Voters Against Trumpism (@RVAT2020) January 15, 2021

“For McConnell, his best course of action is to diminish Trump’s hold on the party going forward."

“I think his signal yesterday–as Liz Cheney did–is to encourage as many Republicans to vote for impeachment as possible.” – @AccountableGOP Executive Director @SarahLongwell25 https://t.co/WQrFXrn9t2
— Republican Accountability Project (@AccountableGOP) January 14, 2021

@AccountableGOP Co-Director @NeuSummits:

"I would strongly encourage any R official that has a platform & followers who believe the election was stolen, please, please, please, tell them it was not."

"This isn't about politics, this is about preventing the next set of attacks." pic.twitter.com/a1z6mexb9G
— Republican Accountability Project (@AccountableGOP) January 15, 2021

“This new belief system is unfalsifiable. It is virulent. It convinces people to take drastic actions that ruin their lives. And because this system has the support—sometimes outright, sometimes tacit—of the Republican party, it is in its expansion phase.” https://t.co/5moaC2S1Bb
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) January 15, 2021