dagblog - Comments for "With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office" http://dagblog.com/link/partial-blame-capitol-attack-majority-favors-barring-trump-office-33609 Comments for "With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office" en Trump finishes with worst http://dagblog.com/comment/298359#comment-298359 <a id="comment-298359"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/partial-blame-capitol-attack-majority-favors-barring-trump-office-33609">With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Trump finishes with worst first term approval rating ever<a href="https://t.co/bxltk7HVI7">https://t.co/bxltk7HVI7</a></p> — Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1351268988265893891?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:27:42 +0000 artappraiser comment 298359 at http://dagblog.com Amazing that we were treated http://dagblog.com/comment/298357#comment-298357 <a id="comment-298357"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/partial-blame-capitol-attack-majority-favors-barring-trump-office-33609">With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Amazing that we were treated to an endless procession of “his base still loves him!” takes about literally the least popular president in the history of polling. <a href="https://t.co/kR4mi2vtAC">https://t.co/kR4mi2vtAC</a></p> — Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1351293561011113984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 18 Jan 2021 23:08:55 +0000 artappraiser comment 298357 at http://dagblog.com BREAKING: 68% of Americans http://dagblog.com/comment/298247#comment-298247 <a id="comment-298247"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/partial-blame-capitol-attack-majority-favors-barring-trump-office-33609">With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">BREAKING: 68% of Americans oppose Pres. Trump pardoning himself for any federal crimes he may be accused of committing, according to new <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ABC</a> News/WaPo poll. <a href="https://t.co/mseWRp7ezf">https://t.co/mseWRp7ezf</a></p> — ABC News (@ABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1350808433252044801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:34:18 +0000 artappraiser comment 298247 at http://dagblog.com A pretty big majority—two http://dagblog.com/comment/298220#comment-298220 <a id="comment-298220"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/partial-blame-capitol-attack-majority-favors-barring-trump-office-33609">With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">A pretty big majority—two thirds/66%—of Americans think Trump acted irresponsibly after the election. (But who are are the one third who think he did not act irresponsibly after the election?) <a href="https://t.co/qTM2PvLjKC">https://t.co/qTM2PvLjKC</a></p> — Laura Rozen (@lrozen) <a href="https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1350642949118439424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>My answer would be: the same 1/3 of the electorate who are right-wing conspiracy-minded anti-gummint nut cases who have bedeviled this country since at least the 1964 election, when they voted for Goldwater. We've made no progress on that front. Anyone that's got conspiracy stories and is for less federal government, that's their guy or gal!</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 17 Jan 2021 03:19:21 +0000 artappraiser comment 298220 at http://dagblog.com food-for-thought speculation http://dagblog.com/comment/298170#comment-298170 <a id="comment-298170"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/partial-blame-capitol-attack-majority-favors-barring-trump-office-33609">With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>food-for-thought speculation on how Trump fans think, by a liberal Canadian who is also<em> <a href="https://www.wlu.ca/academics/faculties/faculty-of-science/faculty-profiles/anne-e-wilson/index.html">professor in the Psychology department at Wilfrid Laurier University....PhD in social psychology...Canada Research Chair in Social Psychology, and a Fellow of the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research (CIFAR) Successful Societies program</a></em></p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Interesting thread on Trump supporters' beliefs about storming the Capitol. Most Trump supporters did not support it. Many approval predictors made sense; one surprise is that people who approve storming the Capitol were *also* more likely to blame Antifa. Mental gymnastics? <a href="https://t.co/gcT4BMtrwr">https://t.co/gcT4BMtrwr</a></p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014814870843396?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>To be sure, it's not a huge effect size, but big enough to think about. My guesses: 1) right wing media (broadly construed) narratives have encouraged both beliefs, so some ppl endorse both without thinking about the logical inconsistency</p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014816775049222?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>2) Trump supporters want a mechanism for saying "I support the sentiment of the protest but not the violence." Although blaming Antifa in this case is clearly disconnected from reality, it's not all bad that Trump supporters are disavowing the violence (even in a silly way).</p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014818142334976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Also - although I completely decry the violence &amp; storming of the Capitol, I *still* defend the (considerably larger) peaceful/lawful protest that day. I believe their grievances are factually incorrect and I'd likely morally decry many of their views. Still support their right.</p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014819388108802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>It may be unpopular to point out at this time of (justified) outrage, but I think it's important for liberals (and all others who oppose Trump) not to succumb to the temptation to paint all conservatives with that same brush. They are NOT synonymous w the insurrectionists.</p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014820507967492?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>I mostly feel sad that affective polarization, mistrust in institutions, and misinformation has gotten to this point. Here's one recent review of how bad this had gotten by <a href="https://twitter.com/EliJFinkel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EliJFinkel</a> and many colleagues <a href="https://t.co/6DeY89nlHh">https://t.co/6DeY89nlHh</a></p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014821644627969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>I don't absolve regular Republicans, but I truly reserve my fury for the political elites who have cynically, knowingly perpetuated election falsehoods knowing that a large enough % of their supporters no longer trust the fact-checkers.</p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014822974230529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>These misconceptions don't come from thin air - people get their ideas from somewhere. Info from political elites &amp; media are increasingly divided, partisan &amp; extreme, which can set off these spirals. My review of this vicious cycle with <a href="https://twitter.com/VParks?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@vparks</a> <a href="https://t.co/Sn3rjmLgT9">https://t.co/Sn3rjmLgT9</a> <a href="https://t.co/eVfFNue9ZP">pic.twitter.com/eVfFNue9ZP</a></p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014825956384768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Oh - and liberals have misconceptions too, and we should hold our group to the same standards (a thread for another time!). That doesn't mean that misconceptions are equivalent, or equally harmful. But we should dissent when our own group, media &amp; elites play these games.</p> — Anne Wilson (@awilson_WLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/awilson_WLU/status/1348014827441188866?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> </div></div></div> Sat, 16 Jan 2021 08:31:29 +0000 artappraiser comment 298170 at http://dagblog.com “His career average approval http://dagblog.com/comment/298169#comment-298169 <a id="comment-298169"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/partial-blame-capitol-attack-majority-favors-barring-trump-office-33609">With partial blame for the Capitol attack, majority favors barring Trump from office</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“His career average approval rating is the lowest for any president in modern polling, back to 1939, and he is the first president in that time never to achieve majority approval at any point.” <a href="https://t.co/w2RzjUySES">https://t.co/w2RzjUySES</a></p> — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1350298866822868994?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">“But just among Republicans, a majority, 60%, wants to continue to follow Trump -- sharply fewer than in the past (83% in a similar question in 2018), but still marking the risk of a Trump/no Trump schism within the party.” <a href="https://t.co/w2RzjUySES">https://t.co/w2RzjUySES</a></p> — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1350299375323525120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sat, 16 Jan 2021 08:18:48 +0000 artappraiser comment 298169 at http://dagblog.com