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What was their "grift"? What

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:26:37 +0000

In reply to I don't feel like following

What was their "grift"? What didn't they announce from the start? The people who have to them seemed satisfied with their services. What was your encounter with them *before* Lincoln Project? Some think them a useful tool specifically because right-winger a won't believe the hippy anarchists.

I don't feel like following

A Guy Called LULU — Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:23:49 +0000

In reply to Did you like Trump's

I don't feel like following you down a twisty rabbit hole on this one. So, I expect this to be the last I say on the subject for now. I did not say they were ineffective, though I believe they were. What I said, without giving the following reasons, is that I despise the crooked, unprincipled, grifting, cynical, money grubbing prick scumbags and I am glad for whatever extent they are being seen for what they are. You can like them and defend their work and their padding of their pockets as much as you wish to. I will hope for better political situations in which we don't feel any necessity of, and wouldn't have the stomach for, adopting them as allies.

Did you like Trump's

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 21:47:34 +0000

In reply to I should aspire to being

Did you like Trump's presidency? Do you think conservative voters paid more attention to disaffected conservative voters/ad-men or liberals? What was the last good/memorable liberal-funded ad (online or TV) you remember?

I should aspire to being

A Guy Called LULU — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 21:39:47 +0000

In reply to New Project for Lincoln Project! (It just fell in their lap)

I should aspire to being above schadenfreude I guess, but I have despised this organization since I found out who its founding members, the ones I knew anything about, are.

Yeah I've been seeing lots of

artappraiser — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 09:05:41 +0000

In reply to Voter suppression's back!

Yeah I've been seeing lots of interesting sfuff on that by lots of smart people, on how the Trump branch of the GOP will use it now, including discouraging swingy districts now from voting at all. New and different suppression.

BUT it behooves to remind there's no money for this project, much of the big business in this country have turned off the spigot, they want stability, they don't want populism and they certainly don't want insurgency. That bent may even begin to show in their own advertising. And you can only bleed the kookoo contingent so long, especially working class who will be paying back rent for like forever

edit to add: of course there's a few businesses that benefit from Trump/Cruz/Hawley chaos method of governing, like guns and ammo manufacturers.

Does gerrymandering work?

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:15:30 +0000

In reply to Voter suppression's back!

Does gerrymandering work?

Gerrymandering Is Not an Existential Threat to Democrats | RealClearPolitics

Voter suppression's back!

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 15 Feb 2021 12:05:07 +0000

In reply to New Project for Lincoln Project! (It just fell in their lap)

Voter suppression's back!

"In a backlash to historic voter turnout in the 2020 general election...legislators have introduced well over four times the number of bills to restrict voting access as compared to roughly this time last year."#VoterSuppression https://t.co/gt510rnY6C
— Michael Holmes (@holmescnn) February 14, 2021

Steve Schmidt & unexpected

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 13 Feb 2021 20:32:04 +0000

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Steve Schmidt & unexpected

pic.twitter.com/FrYOeMCcrl
— Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) February 13, 2021

how much is it worth to make

artappraiser — Sat, 13 Feb 2021 18:54:17 +0000

In reply to Now it's "LP grift". We saw

how much is it worth to make Nicole Wallace laugh about Trump?

#WhereAreThePesos - @SteveSchmidtSES pic.twitter.com/n23O1kdZv7
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) January 8, 2019

I enjoyed the snark and even moreso the reveals of how the pros from Dover do their work. I can't speak for the donors and how they feel about it, since I was not one of them; I thank them for free access they provided. I suspect that many of them are of the variety that think you get what you pay for.

Now it's "LP grift". We saw

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 13 Feb 2021 14:52:32 +0000

In reply to more detail on the McCain

Now it's "LP grift". We saw the ads, we liked the ads, they cheered us up when no one else seemed to be doing fuckall. But while Trump family seemed to be skimming nearly $1 billion off undisclosed unethical conflicts, it's now somehow a horrible that a *marketing* group of all things makes a profit on ads that people enjoyed immensely and at least seemed to be effective (living in the president's brain if nothing else). Compare this with Bannon telling donors their donation would be matched, which turned out to be an absolute lie, so much so that he was indicted but Trump pardoned him. (BTW, what's Bannon's involvement in Jan 6?)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-maher-grills-the-lincoln-project-co-f...