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You can't post full NYT

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:35:44 +0000

In reply to Meta message for the clueless:

You can't post full NYT articles

Also, this is not Root Jr - if the topic is not of general interest (and black use of menthol cigarettes?), put it in your thread.

Note in general, the "Reader Blogs" is for reader *created* content, but we've multipurpose it for longer threads on key topics of interest.

The Anal Moderator

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 11:56am

Understood

Only homicide reports are acceptable on a main page.

Edit to add:

Tweet snippets YES

Articles NO

I'll follow the rules

by rmrd0000 on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:11pm

Tweets under "From the Readers" as a whole blog post?

Show me where.

Homicides under From the Readers as a whole blog post?

Show me where.

Multiple items under 1 heading on similar topic? Well yes.

[I also try to clean up In The News but less successfully]

Is constant bitching about any attempt to instill rules part of your culture? Do you nag your wife when she cleans house or tells you to get your socks out of the living room? Just wondering.

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:31pm

I thought Nigerian women fighting injustice was a universal story

I thought the Boston Globe collaborating with Kendi was universal in nature

Similarly, I thought fighting a health threat was universal.

by rmrd0000 on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:32pm

Nigerian women can go under the World thread or the Police thread. Is it important enough to take up much real estate? Nope.

As for Kendi, it's a bullshit "here's what some woke dude may do" speculation story, so I put it under Woke. Again, important for own piece? Nope. BTW, you cribbed the whole NYT article - there are copyright laws, y'know?

Is it important enough to take up much real estate? Nope. Call me when it actually happens. I don't post "Bill Gates scratches his balls, may take a shit" pieces either.

I pushed 1 NCD piece out of From The Readers so I could bring the more active Proud Boys thread back. If there are 20 comments on Nigerian women i might consider promoting it some way, but it's mostly a moments curiosity.

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:35pm

I apologize for not being able to read your mind

They appeared to be standalone stories to me.

by rmrd0000 on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:40pm

If they're kind of boring as shit or not actually news, then they're not really "standalone". My mind's not that complex. If there's a lot of action in Belarus protest season or recurring BLM protests, i do a thread. If someone climbs a hill or hurts their leg in Bangladesh, i put it under another thread if I can find one. There were a bunch of rapes in Ethiopia/Eritrea - not boring, but unlikely to draw too much commentary - so it goes under World or somewhere.

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:45pm

You control the horizontal and you control the vertical

I reject your assessments but you set the rules

by rmrd0000 on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:58pm

Dude, I'm just trying to make the site more readable after 4 years of Trump daily diarrhea posting, and seeing a bunch of unordered stuff going up & increasing the clutter. I'm rather sick of Meta. I don't even know what horizontal and vertical refers to, but just try to post like together with like, it ain't that tough. For a month you had almost anything black under one column, including Wikipedia pages. Now it's a problem?

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 1:26pm

Dude, there was an anti-Woke post up for a year

COUNTER-REACTIONARIES WORKING TO STAUNCH THE WOKEE CULTURAL TIDE

http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/counterractionaries-working-staunch-wokee-cultural-tide-30340?page=2

Edit to add:

Outer Limits TV show opening

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits.

https://www.innermind.com/outerlimits/info/olopen.htm

by rmrd0000 on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 2:35pm

Uh, that "anti-woke" piece isn't on the front page, and hasn't been for a long time. Recently we ended up with *3* woke pieces plus BLM plus Humanities in Crisis plus whatever's under your opinions. So a lot of woke navel gazing I'm trying to fence off, so actual news finds a place.

PS - never saw Outer Limits. Know Austin City Limits.

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 3:04pm

Guess this is the new place

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 22 Mar 2021 19:33:58 +0000

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Guess this is the new place to post opinion columns.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 02/25/2021 - 10:35pm

Short of filling the entire In the News column with opinion pieces, sure.

Of course you can put *multiple* items in 1 comment if they're fairly short.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:42am

The rule seems arbitrary but whatever.

by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 7:29am

What's arbitrary? You just posted 3 op-eds & 1 TV program under "news", along with an arguably personal interest note, plus items that fit better under your Black History Month effort. There is limited space in the news column - think 3-4 times before i start a new heading under either In the News or Fromm the Readers, preferring to find existing categories where items fit - for organization, continuity, and (in an ideal universe) discussion.

I have limited ability to re-design this blog - most of the space is unused, so largely it's Readers, News, and Comments, and if content doesn't have some order it just becomes an uninteresting mess - might as well just Google "kind of left-leaning news"

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 7:53am

I have no clue about the structure of the website

OGD had no idea of the meaning of the counters

Instead of a simple explanation, you dropped a cartoon in OGD's post.

Thanks for explaining your rationale

by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 8:38am

I posted the cartoon because you seemed like 2 immature guys thinking you were taking over the Blog/internet. I did erase it - if you want me to put it back up I will.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:08pm

Thanks for the removal

by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 1:00pm

I have always tried to post items of related topics on one thread so the little "In The News" section does not scroll away as fast. If people are interested in the topic, they will open the thread. If people do not visit every day, more chance that they will see it. Those that want to discuss the topic or add to it and find it.

You are doing this now with your "Black History Month" thread.

Also, as to what he says about the design, when I started posting "Ine the News", it was not used much at all. There were masthead people posting regularly on the center section on the home page. And that is where much of the discussion activity took place. (I recall news junkies like Wolraich and "Obey" thanked me but not everybody was interested, they stuck to the center of the page.)

In addition non-masthead people like Richard Day, "Hal" and "Wattree" would post blogs in "From the Readers" where other discussion took place.

People with moderating powers CAN ELEVATE ITEMS FROM "FROM THE READERS" TO THE MAIN PAGE. If someone spent the time to write something of note, that might happen again. I'm not interested in doing that, never have been, instead like sharing links and articles by others.

I tended to not post op-eds unless they were news-making in themselves that they were written (i.e., by a major politician who usually does not publish op-eds.) But then others started doing it more often, so I did not fight the tide. Still, if they are related to some news already there, I try to post them as comments to a post already there.

Now the center section is not being used at all unless Peracles writes a blog. That's what new people see when they stumble on the site.

All I see is Peracles trying to solve some of these problems of everything being put in one little tiny section and scrolling away fast, and when people visit all they see is the same topic. So they don't come back. When he can't redesign.

edit to add a note to Peracles: that the "In the News" section is not even set up to access thread comments that easily, as accessing from the main page takes you outside the site to the linked article and you don't see the comments. You have to know to access from "more" under "In the News" to get to the full "In the News" page or use "Latest Comments." This is an insider thing you would have to know to access conversations going on, it is not conducive to newbies. It is not the same thing with "From the Readers".

by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 10:16am

I have no problems with the explanations

Dropping cartoons is not helpful.

Posts labeling people clueless are not helpful.

by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 10:20am

Actually I include myself in the clueless as far as realizing the import of there being no advertising on the site. You as usual took that post way personally and read into it all kinds of things that weren't said at all, totally misunderstood it. It was a DOH moment for me, I never realized it. It means traffic is not a monetized priority to the owner. All the angst (among more than one or two users in the past) about traffic is for naught, he clearly supports it for other reasons . Traffic not a priority. Maybe he has it in mind to care about traffic in the future, but he doesn't now, and still keeps it running. If it becomes trouble or embarrassment for him in some way, though, why keep it up? It's pretty easy for an owner to take a site offline, I know, it happened to me as a user twice before. We are ALL just squatters and need to behave, it's really that simple. It's private property and we are all guests. He chose Peracles to give the keys right now, that is a message. I really meant "let's all not be clueless about who is paying for this".

by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 10:58am

Yep, as usual, I took it personally.

by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:00am

My humble opinion, you need to learn to separate criticism or support of content from meta considerations. I know Peracles does.

They are not one and the same.

Actually, serious writers often consider serious criticism of content as a welcome compliment and ignoring their content and thinking as not worthy of attention is a major dis.

by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:10am

One thing the Black History Month blog opened my mind to is that I could post something in the from the readers section that supported the Woke view of life or supported critical race theory. I could post articles supporting Wokeness and CRT without having to accept your criteria of what I need to accept.

by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:58am

You could always post shit on your own threads and nobody would bother you. Stalking people to rehash old arguments was where you got things deleted.

Now can we fucking get back to news?

PS - posting the Bill of Rights on someone's thread is kind of dickish. Cheering it on kind of makes you one too. Simple lessons in life.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:11pm

I thought it was funny considering the barbs hurled at me.

Another life lesson

Now back to news

by rmrd0000 on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 1:02pm

Is Trump a SPAC now?

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 13:46:23 +0000

In reply to Go Fund Me is old Thousand

Is Trump a SPAC now?

Donald Trump is attempting a hostile takeover of the Republican Party https://t.co/yxKmxfnYDN
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 10, 2021

SPAC Monkeys! Put me in a

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 09:12:42 +0000

In reply to Go Fund Me is old Thousand

SPAC Monkeys! Put me in a capsule and blast me up!!!

Go Fund Me is old Thousand

artappraiser — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:40:24 +0000

In reply to Undoubtedly immigrants

Go Fund Me is old Thousand-Points-of-Light kinda stuff. What about a SPAC?

Undoubtedly immigrants

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:26:19 +0000

In reply to Now that I'm retired I have

Undoubtedly immigrants opposing American values or Macedinian disinfo teams spreading FUD. But I'm gonna put a Gofundme link up just in case.

ba-da-bum! you so funny

artappraiser — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 05:44:53 +0000

In reply to Now that I'm retired I have

ba-da-bum! you so funny

Now that I'm retired I have

ocean-kat — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 05:39:08 +0000

In reply to a quick snapshot of current

Now that I'm retired I have more time to get involved at dagblog so I've been clicking your blogs 50 or 60 thousand times. I don't know where the other 140 thousand clicks come from.

a quick snapshot of current

artappraiser — Wed, 10 Mar 2021 04:50:48 +0000

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a quick snapshot of current hits of the day from the lower left of the Dagblog home page. Ye olde "Iowa Caucus News" has been appearing quite often recently, I've noticed. "The Ministry of Togetherness" from Jan. 2020 is a new one to me, tho. And guess what, if you go to that actual page you'll see it now supposedly has had 175,882 hits total.(Amazing, NCD, you're a best seller now without even knowing it. Me too, and I beat ya, my Iowa Caucus is now 291,820 hits.) So much for the accuracy of the hit counter software here!

HITS OF THE DAY

IS OUR PROUD BOYS LEARNING?
NCD (64)

IOWA CAUCUS NEWS AND RELATED STUFF
artappraiser (43)

MEET THE PERPS
artappraiser (34)

[COVID NEWS] BIDEN: ENOUGH VACCINE FOR EVERY...
artappraiser (34)

THE MINISTRY OF TOGETHERNESS
NCD (30)

p.s. If one's goal is to be

artappraiser — Mon, 22 Feb 2021 18:10:31 +0000

In reply to At the time I posted it one

p.s. If one's goal is to be an "influencer" using a pseudonym or real identify, or to grow and manipulate an audience, this is a pretty dumb place to pursue it as currently configured. It already belongs to someone and he'll do with it as he likes. Currently he has left the keys to his joint with a board of contributers at the top of the page, all of whom except one have abdicated their responsibilities. See the reality, that's the only point of this post, and go elsewhere if you don't like it.