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Kang's full thread on it:

artappraiser — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:12:48 +0000

In reply to Democrats are losing Asian

Kang's full thread on it:

It’s truly incredible how much has been written about the attacks on Asian Americans and how many of those stories very carefully avoid the actual issue. Can’t really remember anything where you have to write about it but you can’t actually discuss it.
— kang (@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

It’s almost as if one type of racial sensitivity compels you to cover it but another compels you to discuss it in such vague and lobotomized terms that you can actually read the strain on the page. Anyway sorry to all white ppl who have to write about this! Must be confusing!
— kang (@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

The standard, institutional language of race in America is profoundly broken and assumes a binary that stopped making sense after the Hart Celler Act and certainly makes less sense now. This isn’t to say ‘you have to talk about immigrants bc it’s unfair if you don’t...’
— kang(@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

Nobody should care about representation that much. The problem is that the language actually can’t discuss the lives of immigrants in any accurate or meaningful way. So everything festers; people get frustrated. That hesitancy to discuss feels like callousness, which it is.
— kang (@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

Anyway if I were a Republican running for office in any city with a lot of Asians I would start a law and order, full capitalist, bring back testing campaign right now. The liberal elite Asian America which really only started in the mid to late nineties, is receding.
— kang (@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

For the record: ‘the actual issue’ is the long history of racial violence between Black and Asian communities, the complete inability for anyone to process it, and the new variable, which is how these incidents, which involve Black assailants, play out over Asian social media.
— kang (@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

At some point one of these foot patrols or the cops themselves will falsely accuse or attack a Black person and we will have a Central Park 5. It’s on us to prevent that from happening and to use this time to actually do the coalition building and organizing work.
— kang (@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

And we have to absolutely reject these false binaries. The only way to actually care about the victims is to see the depth of the problem, reject ‘summit activism’ where some multicultural elites do panels, and reject carceral ‘solutions’ that will 100% lead to more violence https://t.co/dNHzGrqhqN
— kang (@jaycaspiankang) February 26, 2021

Democrats are losing Asian

artappraiser — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:05:11 +0000

In reply to Texas Democrats issue report on 2020 elections (& Hispanic vote issues)

Democrats are losing Asian-American voters apace:

Good thread here! https://t.co/UeAXpSZbkx
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 26, 2021

But I’d say it’s not just Asians … the largest increase in crime victimization (by far!) has been among African-Americans, and if crime keeps rising you’ll see a tough on crime backlash among Black voters too.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) February 26, 2021

Feeling my "oats" with Biden

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:24:00 +0000

In reply to Mad Dog 20/20 is not just for

Feeling my "oats" with Biden in the house. Grrr, ruff, slurp.

Interesting in itself that

artappraiser — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 06:21:35 +0000

In reply to I remember Wolraich debating

Interesting in itself that you remember it, too! He's certainly got a knack for long term earworm effect or something? It was a sort of aggravation for me, as I'd love it if people voted like they were hiring someone to do a specific job. Was like: passion for party is the last thing I'd like to see...

Mad Dog 20/20 is not just for

moat — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:24:41 +0000

In reply to Ironic after "crack mothers"

Mad Dog 20/20 is not just for breakfast anymore.

Ironic after "crack mothers"

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 19:06:55 +0000

In reply to I remember Wolraich debating

Ironic after "crack mothers" the whole party getting off on these endorphin highs. I mean, there are good drugs out there. This one's like raw pineal gland that way in the fridge too long mixed with those gag me half cocktails you give to teens who aren't used to drinking (not that i knew any of those when I was growing up). Stuff guaranteed to give a bad hangover unless you choose to never come down, ironically the "blue pill" option.

I remember Wolraich debating

moat — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:44:12 +0000

In reply to This is an intriguing point

I remember Wolraich debating the issue in the early days of Dag. I argued for a "platform" approach that built policy toward specific outcomes. I remember his argument as more about needing a unifying narrative that would connect the proposals than an attempt to fight culture fires with fire.

After all this time in the barrel going over Trump Falls, the mundane affairs of practical life suddenly have a cultural life of their own. The GOP is only offering another bump so you can get back to the nauseous delirium that lets one escape from all that.

"Getting shit done" - maybe

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 07:55:00 +0000

In reply to This is an intriguing point

"Getting shit done" - maybe we don't care what people "believe", and instead just want them to make things work? I mean, post office/mail delivery, energy grids, pandemic response, election votes... - just do your jobs. Uh, the Attorney General firing tear gas at peaceful protesters, or the federal law enforcement and Guard abandoning the Capitol to a mob - why are these things even a debate these days? Why does nothing except a mean tweet rise to the level of "you're fired"?

This is an intriguing point

artappraiser — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 07:36:51 +0000

In reply to Texas Democrats issue report on 2020 elections (& Hispanic vote issues)

This is an intriguing point (and I think Noah Smith agrees it's intriguing because he retweeted it). Not the least of which because it reminded me how for a long time Wolraich had this thing about the Democratic party needing to "mean something," to have a message:

"People like to say "Democrats talk too much about issues and we don't talk enough about our values. And I think that's actually really bad, that's backward. Our values are weird and alien to swing voters. But people agree with us on a lot of different issues." https://t.co/ml3RlITLYh
— Keegs (@LittleKeegs0) February 25, 2021

It made me think of how Wolraich first wrote the little book on right wing culture wars coming out of his thoughts at TPM Cafe. And from getting buried in that world, one might naturally presume it's important to respond in kind. But what about just saying no to culture warring, isn't that an alternative too? After idiot Trump, who only did culture wars and flippy floppy ones yet, because they were for his own benefit as a narcissist, wonkery would certainly have a bigger market, at least for some time?

These gerrymandered districts

artappraiser — Wed, 24 Feb 2021 22:06:20 +0000

In reply to Texas Democrats issue report on 2020 elections (& Hispanic vote issues)

These gerrymandered districts are totally quacked up.

No wonder OH-4 lays an egg every cycle and re-elects Gym Jordan. https://t.co/Eiml6OOKpB pic.twitter.com/6XNJTriqR0
— Nick Knudsen (@NickKnudsenUS) February 24, 2021