dagblog - Comments for "BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980 Comments for "BLM: "When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition..."" en No one paid attention in 2016 http://dagblog.com/comment/308169#comment-308169 <a id="comment-308169"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308162#comment-308162">Nobody noticed back in Nov.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>No one paid attention in 2016, because BLM is not regarded as being knowledgeable on anything other than police abuse.</p> <p>When it comes to police abuse, very few take calls for abolition of police seriously.</p> <p>Professor Gates did a PBS series on Blacks in Latin America that discussed racism in Cuba.</p> <p><a href="https://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/">https://www.pbs.org/wnet/black-in-latin-america/</a></p> <p>BLM has been criticized for it's praise for Fidel, including by Afro-Cubans.</p> <blockquote> <p>“It was surprising to me that Black Lives Matter came out with a statement focusing solely on the U.S. and not talking about why all of those folks are protesting, not coming out in solidarity of Black folks on the ground who are protesting,” said Danielle Clealand, associate professor of Mexican American and Latina/o studies at the University of Texas at Austin and the author of "<a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-power-of-race-in-cuba-racial-ideology-and-black-consciousness-during-the-revolution_danielle-clealand/14088701/item/37641932/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwub-HBhCyARIsAPctr7y3KkZbos131ObfZdVLSHGQntWDC3s9_MV-WpG3tOQJymH9LHqheFUaAh6BEALw_wcB#idiq=37641932&amp;edition=14947749">The Power of Race in Cuba</a>." </p> </blockquote> <p>The BLM organization involved updated its statement.</p> <blockquote> <p>In an email to NBC News, Black Lives Matter officials said their statement was “grounded in our unequivocal support for Cuba,” and vowed to amplify the voices of Afro-Cuban protesters protesting oppression “from all actors, including the United States Embargo.”</p> <p>“We unequivocally join in solidarity with the Cuban people against repression and violence from internal and unseen external actors,” officials said in the statement. “We also understand that Anti-Blackness exists within Cuba and is a Global issue. We struggle for and alongside Black people across the diaspora for liberation and self-sovereignty.”</p> <p>In its original message, BLM noted that Black and brown people make up a large portion of the Cuban population. The country's 2012 Census reported that Black people<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/cuba-african-roots-run-deep-it-s-lesson-students-aren-n767616"> made up 9.3 percent</a> of Cuba’s 11.1 million population.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-lives-matter-faces-backlash-statement-cuba-protest-rcna1438">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-lives-matter-faces-backlash-statement-cuba-protest-rcna1438</a><br />  </p> <p>BLM is not the go to source for position papers on Cuba.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:29:46 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 308169 at http://dagblog.com Nobody noticed back in Nov. http://dagblog.com/comment/308162#comment-308162 <a id="comment-308162"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980">BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Nobody noticed back at the end of Nov. 2016 when BLM wrote and tweeted a loving ode to Fidel Castro's vision -</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Lessons from Fidel: Black Lives Matter and the Transition of El Comandante <a href="https://t.co/CYTcy6ReIa">https://t.co/CYTcy6ReIa</a></p> — Black Lives Matter (@Blklivesmatter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Blklivesmatter/status/802917456331280384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2016</a></blockquote> </div> <p>If they had many more would be wary of labeling protests about George Floyd video with their name.</p> <p>They have been and continue to be consistent though</p> <div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>Black Lives Matter has released a statement on Cuba: <a href="https://t.co/NgnT1o1oZE">pic.twitter.com/NgnT1o1oZE</a></p> — Sabrina Rodríguez (@sabrod123) <a href="https://twitter.com/sabrod123/status/1415496641658896391?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p>It's not been their fault if people have misinterpreted their messages.and goals, which are basically anarcho-communist, and used their name as if they didn't have such messages and goals.</p> <p>It's just that I wonder: did anybody tell them that the Castro regime and his followers have found police forces and jails and prisons to be very useful tools in maintaining the "people's revolution"?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Jul 2021 18:30:36 +0000 artappraiser comment 308162 at http://dagblog.com "every buck you take, every http://dagblog.com/comment/305110#comment-305110 <a id="comment-305110"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/305108#comment-305108">BLM Co-Founder Patrisse</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>"every buck you take, every muck you rake..." she don't have to turn on her red light... time to send out an SOS?</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 May 2021 19:16:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 305110 at http://dagblog.com BLM Co-Founder Patrisse http://dagblog.com/comment/305108#comment-305108 <a id="comment-305108"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980">BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>BLM Co-Founder Patrisse Cullors Has Funneled Business To Company Run By Father Of Her Only Child, Records Show <a href="https://t.co/PalGzKuxzP">https://t.co/PalGzKuxzP</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/DailyCaller?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dailycaller</a></p> — Mollie (@MZHemingway) <a href="https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1391455511883796484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p>right wing watching every little thing she does, to paraphrase Sting</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 09 May 2021 18:53:39 +0000 artappraiser comment 305108 at http://dagblog.com Crosslink: turns out many of http://dagblog.com/comment/304531#comment-304531 <a id="comment-304531"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980">BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Crosslink:<a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/racializing-policy-issue-counterproductive-us-politics-34209"> turns out many of your stylings have been enormously counter-productive</a></p> </div></div></div> Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:04:59 +0000 artappraiser comment 304531 at http://dagblog.com re: abolishing prisons http://dagblog.com/comment/304530#comment-304530 <a id="comment-304530"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980">BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>re: abolishing prisons</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">SF DA Chesa Boudin has been doing everything he can to refuse to incarcerate offenders. There's a cost to that. <a href="https://t.co/VqAQK7gIT9">https://t.co/VqAQK7gIT9</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1386067246108262402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:02:37 +0000 artappraiser comment 304530 at http://dagblog.com MANY THANKS due to Jim http://dagblog.com/comment/304398#comment-304398 <a id="comment-304398"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980">BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>MANY THANKS due to Jim Clyburn and others who read the riot act to lefties in the Dem party about using BLM fucking "defund" and "abolish" slogans until the Georgia Senate race was done:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Kamala Harris is already casting tie-breaking votes at a historic clip. <a href="https://t.co/zV50b6BiWx">https://t.co/zV50b6BiWx</a> <a href="https://t.co/8U6wJPBoDh">pic.twitter.com/8U6wJPBoDh</a></p> — Philip Bump (@pbump) <a href="https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1385435790893854720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 23 Apr 2021 03:34:29 +0000 artappraiser comment 304398 at http://dagblog.com The email from Phil Berk, who http://dagblog.com/comment/304164#comment-304164 <a id="comment-304164"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980">BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The email from Phil Berk, who served 8 terms as Hollywood Foreign Press Assn. president, called BLM a “racist hate movement.”<br /><br /> And the email described BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors as a “self-proclaimed ‘trained Marxist.’” More:<a href="https://t.co/gHYDNKmkSl">https://t.co/gHYDNKmkSl</a></p> — Los Angeles Times (@latimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1384287902494990336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 20 Apr 2021 04:10:34 +0000 artappraiser comment 304164 at http://dagblog.com not official BLM, but very http://dagblog.com/comment/304121#comment-304121 <a id="comment-304121"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/blm-when-we-say-defundthepolice-we-mean-abolition-33980">BLM: &quot;When we say #DefundThePolice, we mean abolition...&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>not official BLM, but very much a fellow traveler:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">When a majority of the Black working class supports defunding or abolishing the police I will believe this analysis. For now, I don't see the evidence for it. Can you point me to a poll that suggests I'm wrong? <a href="https://t.co/Tw9RMMIXHk">https://t.co/Tw9RMMIXHk</a></p> — Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) <a href="https://twitter.com/conor64/status/1382244629186191362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">She's projecting. At this point, it's the arguments for defund/abolish that are tired and microwave reheated. There has been no attempt to address the criticisms - just repeat repeat repeat.</p> — Manzell Beezy (@BeezyManzell) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeezyManzell/status/1382251979683028992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 19 Apr 2021 16:58:55 +0000 artappraiser comment 304121 at http://dagblog.com If everyone has 4 houses http://dagblog.com/comment/304063#comment-304063 <a id="comment-304063"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/304046#comment-304046">&quot;Living Wage&quot; = 4 houses</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>If everyone has 4 houses worth $3..2 million everyone is equal. I'm sure she has a plan for that eventually happening so what's the problem?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 17 Apr 2021 20:20:29 +0000 ocean-kat comment 304063 at http://dagblog.com