dagblog - Comments for "Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents" http://dagblog.com/link/half-americans-now-identify-independents-33997 Comments for "Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents" en Reality check for liberals http://dagblog.com/comment/301808#comment-301808 <a id="comment-301808"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/half-americans-now-identify-independents-33997">Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Reality check for liberals from FiveThirtyEight.com, March 5</p> <blockquote> <p>[ ...] <strong><a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-americans-think-about-the-minimum-wage-and-their-governors/">How popular is your governor?</a></strong></p> <p>Between <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/27/nyregion/cuomo-charlotte-bennett-sexual-harassment.html">scandals</a> and <a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/californias-gavin-newsom-will-likely-face-a-recall-election-but-hell-probably-survive-it/">recall elections</a> and <a href="https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/03/02/abbott-hints-at-exciting-news-tuesday-that-could-include-rollback-of-texas-covid-19-restrictions/">COVID-19</a>, governors have been in the news a lot lately. Perhaps it’s not a coincidence, then, that we’ve gotten quite a few polls of governors’ approval ratings in the past month.</p> </blockquote> <p><span style="font-size:18px">[See CHART AT LINK  How governors stack up</span></p> <p><span style="font-size:18px">Share of respondents in 12 states saying they approve or disapprove of their governor’s job performance, according to polls conducted since Feb. 5]</span></p> <blockquote> <p>Because these numbers come from several different pollsters (and some are of adults while others are of registered voters), be careful making direct comparisons between governors — but we can still draw a few undeniable conclusions. For example, Govs. <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5eb9fa2f8ac4df11937f6a49/t/6033e2731522ce5cb1cad32c/1614013044573/Topline+2021+02+Baker+Approval.pdf">Charlie Baker of Massachusetts</a> and <a href="https://scholars.unh.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1637&amp;context=survey_center_polls">Chris Sununu of New Hampshire</a> are still extremely popular — despite being <a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/our-popularity-above-replacement-governor-rankings-are-back/">Republicans in not-very-red states</a>. And although liberals have lambasted them for their permissive COVID-19 safety protocols, Govs. <a href="https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20494010-fl221pollpart1-1">Ron DeSantis</a> of <a href="https://polls.saintleo.edu/gov-desantis-recovers-some-lost-ground-in-job-approval-ratings-new-saint-leo-university-poll-reveals/">Florida</a>, <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5f232ea74d8342386a7ebc52/t/602592a896a3b90a00caac12/1613075112910/South_Dakota_Public_Opinion_Poll-Survey_Results-Smart_Charts_compressed.pdf">Kristi Noem of South Dakota</a> and <a href="https://morningconsult.com/2021/03/01/texas-cruz-cancun-approval-rating/">Greg Abbott</a> of <a href="https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/3621607cfe2ea3f22237c09fe87d777a/uttt-2021-02-summary-1.pdf?_ga=2.149702198.1640741010.1614354625-376502857.1571937506">Texas</a> are doing just fine politically, with average net approval ratings<a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-americans-think-about-the-minimum-wage-and-their-governors/#fn-1">1</a> of +17 points, +11 points and +19 points, respectively. (Note that, in Abbott’s case, the polls were all conducted before this week’s announcement that he’d be fully reopening the state. However, there’s <a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fallout-from-texass-winter-storm-wont-hurt-republicans-at-the-ballot-box-in-2022/">good reason to believe</a> that won’t harm his approval rating much.)</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 06 Mar 2021 00:42:22 +0000 artappraiser comment 301808 at http://dagblog.com Udi of the ACLU advises that http://dagblog.com/comment/301561#comment-301561 <a id="comment-301561"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/half-americans-now-identify-independents-33997">Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Udi of the ACLU advises that Democrats need to make their party smaller and purer by having more congresspersons vote against their constituents wishes:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Here is the state of the Democratic Party today: a whopping 119 DEMOCRATS just voted AGAINST restoring voting rights to people in prison. Congress Member <a href="https://twitter.com/CoriBush?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoriBush</a> heroically tried to add this provision to HR 1. Her own party failed her. We still have so much to teach Democrats. <a href="https://t.co/71TYUnTfEb">pic.twitter.com/71TYUnTfEb</a></p> — Udi Ofer (@UdiACLU) <a href="https://twitter.com/UdiACLU/status/1366821057617944585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 03 Mar 2021 04:13:54 +0000 artappraiser comment 301561 at http://dagblog.com Biden’s COVID relief bill http://dagblog.com/comment/301495#comment-301495 <a id="comment-301495"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/half-americans-now-identify-independents-33997">Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Biden’s COVID relief bill widely popular among swing voters, Democratic poll finds <a href="https://t.co/C0oDUUniPP">https://t.co/C0oDUUniPP</a></p> — Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) <a href="https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1366037837552959488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 02 Mar 2021 06:25:42 +0000 artappraiser comment 301495 at http://dagblog.com David Shor responding to http://dagblog.com/comment/301478#comment-301478 <a id="comment-301478"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/half-americans-now-identify-independents-33997">Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>David Shor responding to Yglesias:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">If our class of 18 incumbents ran last year then we would have lost 4-6 seats. Even if we have another wave year in 24, less ticket splitting combined with increased urban-rural polarization will lead to large certain losses without changes to our coalition and structural reform <a href="https://t.co/HC1UudwszY">https://t.co/HC1UudwszY</a> <a href="https://t.co/S4qDchsNS5">pic.twitter.com/S4qDchsNS5</a></p> — (((David Shor))) (@davidshor) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidshor/status/1366412498228895751?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 02 Mar 2021 03:50:05 +0000 artappraiser comment 301478 at http://dagblog.com Great thread from a super http://dagblog.com/comment/301477#comment-301477 <a id="comment-301477"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/half-americans-now-identify-independents-33997">Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Great thread from a super-smart scholar who has written a great book on political independents. <a href="https://t.co/Xj6XzF4Z7u">https://t.co/Xj6XzF4Z7u</a></p> — Lee Drutman (@leedrutman) <a href="https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366425156546093058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">As many noted in replies to <a href="https://twitter.com/leedrutman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LeeDrutman</a>, leaners are generally not party switchers, they vote for their preferred party, &amp; hold party-aligned issue preferences.<br /><br /> The question Yanna &amp; I pursue vigorously in our work is: so WHY the hell do they call themselves independents?? 2/n</p> — Samara Klar (@SamaraKlar) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaraKlar/status/1366422647827955718?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">We find that partisanship itself has become stigmatized. Our surveys &amp; experiments show that voters associate partisanship with anger &amp; hostility--traits they don't associate with themselves. Partisanship generally is socially undesirable, across both parties. 3/n</p> — Samara Klar (@SamaraKlar) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaraKlar/status/1366423111214583814?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">When we show respondents real-life politics--including transcripts from presidential debates--the people who are most concerned with social desirability (measured using a self-monitoring scale) become more likely to identify as leaners, rather than partisans. 4/n</p> — Samara Klar (@SamaraKlar) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaraKlar/status/1366423474999201794?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Their issue preferences don't change and probably neither does their vote. So why does this matter? Because they become less likely to publicize their partisanship: they don't talk about it, they don't put it on social media, they don't want a campaign sticker, etc. 5/n</p> — Samara Klar (@SamaraKlar) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaraKlar/status/1366423812594491394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">So a rise in independents matters because it signals: (a) growing negativity in the parties, which most Americans generally reject; and (b) Americans' subsequent reluctance to support parties from the grassroots. (Book, btw, is here: <a href="https://t.co/gJJQqYlfXv">https://t.co/gJJQqYlfXv</a>) 6/6</p> — Samara Klar (@SamaraKlar) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaraKlar/status/1366424213288935424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I just want you to know that I talked about your book to a NICU night nurse while I was in the hospital with the baby and she *wrote down the details* to follow up on.</p> — Laurel Eckhouse (@l_eckhouse) <a href="https://twitter.com/l_eckhouse/status/1366462899841945600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">haha, that is the most on-brand story you could have told me! thanks for keeping our work in mind in literally any setting.</p> — Samara Klar (@SamaraKlar) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaraKlar/status/1366463262179479556?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p>that's just the start of many replies</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 02 Mar 2021 03:37:44 +0000 artappraiser comment 301477 at http://dagblog.com America is a center-left http://dagblog.com/comment/301475#comment-301475 <a id="comment-301475"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/half-americans-now-identify-independents-33997">Half of Americans Now Identify as Independents</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">America is a center-left country. <a href="https://t.co/Xu9w8bmsRe">https://t.co/Xu9w8bmsRe</a> <a href="https://t.co/5z5TuetJg7">pic.twitter.com/5z5TuetJg7</a></p> — Lee Drutman (@leedrutman) <a href="https://twitter.com/leedrutman/status/1366475381100990467?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">.<a href="https://twitter.com/perrybaconjr?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@perrybaconjr</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/sfrostenson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@sfrostenson</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/leedrutman?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@leedrutman</a> and I talked CPAC/Trump.<br /><br /> Notes: Talk abt “cancel culture” unites Rs, Trump/his agenda might be here to stay, we need more stories abt how state/local Rs are pushing Trumpism — &amp; less on Trump’s personal musings.<a href="https://t.co/WMTfvOCPCe">https://t.co/WMTfvOCPCe</a></p> — Alexandra Samuels (@AlexSamuelsx5) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexSamuelsx5/status/1366458176707715082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 02 Mar 2021 03:23:34 +0000 artappraiser comment 301475 at http://dagblog.com