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PERFECT description the

artappraiser — Fri, 23 Jul 2021 04:26:36 +0000

In reply to Assistance in understanding those unwoke Hispanics in places like the Bronx

PERFECT description of the Democratic Party Machine in NYC, this really is the way it is, not just for the board of Education, but all city government jobs

“The city BOE seems immune to reform because many politicians secretly love having a reservoir of jobs they can give to supporters, friends and relatives. It’s old school cronyism.” https://t.co/kvfx2IWPdO
— Susan Edelman (@SusanBEdelman) July 22, 2021

These are the people that often treat taxpaying citizens like dirt when they try to get help from the city government, or just don't try very hard to help They do that because they basically have "tenure." Bloomberg put a hold on a lot of this during his reign by installing all sorts of checks and balances on them, like a business would do with employees. (I.E. First he created the 311 phone number to access them all-instead of getting no answer nor voice mail from many departments which was the tradition with many city govt. services before him--then with followup to see if the caller was helped OR ELSE.) But things had basically gotten back to "normal" even before Covid, and 311 has become a joke, just another nightmare voice mail menu with no real options and no answers

and it's not just a NYC thing

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jun 2021 19:07:10 +0000

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and it's not just a NYC thing; this guy is in Smyrna, GA:

There’s this weird obsession with trying to put black voters in some type of ideological box. Black voters want the same thing as everyone else. Good schools, safe communities, a good economy. https://t.co/iolCKbOMaS
— Ryan Campbell (@RyanForSmyrna) June 27, 2021

To translate the NYT-ese:

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:30:52 +0000

In reply to “But a growing body of

To translate the NYT-ese:

Since white progressive elites have finally realized their platform is deeply unpopular with the ethnic minorities they love to think they’re saving, time for a rebrand or the demographics will be against them rather than for. https://t.co/dCigYmd5vs
— Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) June 27, 2021

Whether it comes to voter ID and voting, or ‘defund the police’, whites are deeply out of step with where most minorities *actually* sit on those and other issues.

If only they understood those constituencies as more than convenient caricatures.
— Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) June 27, 2021

also he opined earlier as related to school curricula fights in SF:

It’s noteworthy that during the tumultuous Cuban Revolution, when the state came for the children and was going to send them to education camps is when everyone freaked out and put their kids on flights out in a panic (my parents among them).
— Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) June 26, 2021

Something about the state trying to create the new utopia via children is when even parents who’d put up with whatever totalitarian BS revolt.

You see it now with the SFUSD board, among other places.
— Antonio García Martínez (@antoniogm) June 26, 2021

“But a growing body of

artappraiser — Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:27:12 +0000

In reply to Assistance in understanding those unwoke Hispanics in places like the Bronx

“But a growing body of evidence indicates that large numbers of Black and Latino voters may simply take a more centrist view on the very issues — race and criminal justice — that progressives assumed would rally voters of color to their side.” https://t.co/dIVkf5PcfH
— Murtaza Hussain (@MazMHussain) June 26, 2021

I’ve written about this before too. Would add that in my experience lots of people probably have centrist to conservative leanings on many social issues and this is important to understanding future electoral trends: https://t.co/q12zuQhj35
— Murtaza Hussain (@MazMHussain) June 26, 2021

I think the answer is simple - personalities win elections, not issues. AOC & Bowman are progressives who had no problem winning blacks and Latinos. But it’s not because of Medicare for All or whatever progressives like to think. It’s due to personality, background, relatability
— Joe Press (@FutbolxFitness) June 26, 2021

I’ve been thinking about that a lot since you said it, I think it’s very true. A corollary to that is that people are likely to support the personalities who they feel share their values and whom they can thus relate to.
— Murtaza Hussain (@MazMHussain) June 26, 2021

That’s a depressing notion. But it seems very true that the majority of minority populations are at best annoyed by activists among them and more often have contempt. Respectability politics and trauma play big roles, too.
— Violet of Cascadia (@ReadingJust4) June 26, 2021

It's important to keep in mind the possibility that they, being of sound mind and body, and with good reason, legitimately don't believe what you believe when it comes to the best path forward?
— unsuspicious username (@funkmastaD123) June 26, 2021

Working people with real issues, aren’t trying to burn the system down and start over.
They don’t care about jargon like LatinX, they know the cops are racist and still want them funded.
— Newman for a New Day (@for_newman) June 26, 2021

"Progressives" had to spent a lot of time ignoring a lot of people to end up at this point. There's so much irony in here it makes me sad.
— Manzell Beezy (@BeezyManzell) June 26, 2021

Oh I assure you much more

artappraiser — Fri, 25 Jun 2021 00:18:26 +0000

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Oh I assure you much more clarity will occur before that as he will still have to run against Curtis Sliwa. They'll be fighting for the king of law and order title, and will mostly argue about who can be tougher on criminals and scumbags. Racial issues won't be raised much at all (unless some Asian feel neglected by both of them, that's possible I guess) They're sort of like peas in a pod. Neither is a racist, both are way supportive of police, both speak working class borough speak.

And believe it or not we New Yorkers live side by side with tons of all colors and immigrants from like 100 nations (even entertain U.N. diplomats from allover the world as guests!). We are not at all obsessed with white supremacy, so yesterday (and so rust belt) we're obsessed with class distinctions.If we see a guy with black skin, we have no way or knowing whether he's Afro-American, or from Zimbabwe, or from Jamaica, or the UK for that matter. Could be a gazillionaire could be an Obama wannabe preppy, could be a criminal rapper. That's our big "bubble", as you like to project on me from your little bubble where you are obviously obsessed with Afro-Americans vs. "whites" as if those are the only two peoples in this country.

Stated above

rmrd0000 — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 23:55:12 +0000

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Stated above

If he wins, the proof will be inhow he operates as mayor.

How the NYC mayoral

artappraiser — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 23:12:11 +0000

In reply to You haven't a clue. Adams was

How the NYC mayoral candidates have responded to the Black Lives Matter protests

Not everyone sided with the protesters. Will it haunt them in 2021?

By JEFF COLTIN JULY 30, 2020

[....]

Eric Adams

The Brooklyn borough president has helped paint Black Lives Matter murals around the city, and has joined marches and bike rides against racism. The former NYPD captain has criticized the tactics of certain police officers and certain protesters, while emphasizing that the Black Lives Matter movement should also look at street violence and not just police violence.

[....].

He likes the local BLM, he

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:51:00 +0000

In reply to There is no way that BLM

He likes the local BLM, he wants to purge the outside agitators - how many times gotta say it?

And no, doesn't take much to identify the well-prepared outside guys who walk up and start breaking windows and torching storefronts. I witnesses a WTO protest where similar happened - everything peaceful, then the trained corps showed up, hand signals, moving 3x as fast as the slowpaced protesters, within 5 minutes they had their destruction and photo op.

Eric Adams appears to have

rmrd0000 — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 20:32:34 +0000

In reply to anyone in NYC who is

Eric Adams appears to have won the Mayor's race. Down-ballot races in NYC are being won by Progressives. The Working Families Party won City Council seats. NYC Mayor's are not the role model used for mayor's across the country. Guiliani and Bloomberg types were not sought after by the public in other cities.

Outside out of New York City, a Socialist won in Buffalo.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/nyregion/maya-wiley-progressive-nyc-primary.html

Edit to add:

Adams realizes that he was not the first choice of 70% of NYC voters who cast in-person votes

Mr. Adams acknowledged that his message did not resonate with a majority of New Yorkers; even though he held a significant lead, nearly 70 percent of voters did not list him as their first choice. Still, in four of the city’s five boroughs, he came in first in in-person votes, trailing Ms. Garcia in Manhattan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/nyregion/eric-adams-crime-mayor.html

There is no way that BLM

rmrd0000 — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 18:40:54 +0000

In reply to Congratulations - in this

There is no way that BLM leadership would know everyone present in a large crowd. Adams describes the intent of the agitators to disrupt. You are free to continue with your fantasy. Adams talks about the service BLM provided and is painting murals in their honor.