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And Australia down under too?

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 02 Apr 2021 21:33:53 +0000

In reply to that's Detroit, that's

And Australia down under too?

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/02/sport/nathan-baggaley-australian-olym...

that's Detroit, that's

artappraiser — Fri, 02 Apr 2021 00:00:24 +0000

In reply to More Midwest smart crime

that's Detroit, that's different.

More Midwest smart crime

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 22:37:20 +0000

In reply to THANK YOU! This is so

More Midwest smart crime

SCOOP: Millionaire Grosse Pointe Park CEO killed in plane crash lived secret life financing international drug ring while building a submarine to haul cocaine across the Atlantic Ocean, feds say https://t.co/iYaWM2vj9p via me and @cferretti_dn
— Robert Snell (@robertsnellnews) April 1, 2021

this guy sounds smart too

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 21:24:24 +0000

In reply to THANK YOU! This is so

this guy sounds smart too

Dr. Jeffrey Butts, the director of the Research and Evaluation Center at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, dismisses explanations based on bail reform and the rest as “self-serving law-enforcement theories.” He told me, “Young men of color in the ages between fifteen and twenty-five, the group most affected by gun violence, are also very likely to have the kind of jobs that disappeared in the pandemic.” Summer-job programs were cancelled, too. “And, of course, the schools have been closed for a year,” he went on. “These young men are angry; they go out on the streets, where there now are fewer people, and they take the opportunity to go after their rivals.”

except I would argue that he's wrong about parole and bail SIMPLY BECAUSE, if young guys that haven't been in trouble can't even handle the current situation, how the heck are guys that just got out supposed to? Stay in the house with grandma all day? No way. In this pandemic and economy, they need 24/7 oversight and direction, not a parole officer that talks to them once a month or whatever.

THANK YOU! This is so

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 21:13:20 +0000

In reply to Of every 10 people who arrive

THANK YOU! This is so excellent, the game she plays at the start

“I’m pushing you guys to look at your stereotypes,” Harrison said. “I want you to notice how sometimes you don’t really see other people, how you stereotype them, and how they stereotype you. How does stereotyping lead to gun violence? Because it makes us feel that we’re unsafe, and that we don’t know each other. What we don’t know makes us afraid. People pick up guns because they feel afraid, and powerless. Being afraid is a part of life, and we can deal with it in better ways. And we are not powerless, as I will show you.”

also this But that’s something we’ll talk more about later in the year—how things you do in high school can stay with you and affect your life later. that's something that specially a problem for poor kids in NYC and other big city tribal bubbles; they don't have cars, they don't get around like teens elsewhere might, don't see other lifestyles. Now social media makes for bubbles too, used to be they saw other lifestyles on tv, now they are even more isolated as to tribe they think their big high school is like the world is just because it's big. It's not, it's just da Bronx or Queens culture. New Yorkers that don't get out much are very like small town people that don't get out much! It's really just a collection of small towns. And here's the secret: the rest of the world is scary to them. (Drop them in a midwestern college town or like an art fair, they'd be scared to death! they don't know the behavior rules.)

Of every 10 people who arrive

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 10:15:49 +0000

In reply to No I am criticizing activists

Of every 10 people who arrive at a hospital with gunshot wounds and don’t die, five will eventually be shot again, and, of those, two will die. In New York City, organizers are determined to stop the violence. https://t.co/H3MMzaS0QJ
— The New Yorker (@NewYorker) March 31, 2021

Joe Biden dismissed them

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:16:10 +0000

In reply to No I am criticizing activists

Joe Biden dismissed them simply and well: the police need more money and manpower, not less. (And overall: more government, not less.) Trump and Barr loved every frigging protest, and the associated rioting and looting even more, because it was all in blue cities!

Edit to add: the Russian trolls can see it, how well lefty radical rhetoric against blue government works, why can't others?

I'm ignorant as to which "red

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:16:00 +0000

In reply to No I am criticizing activists

I'm ignorant as to which "red city" has a similar black high crime inner city dynamic to work with, so I don't know if the issue is coddling BLM types (we've agreed this has turned stupid) or simply the areas that have these issues will in general vote in Democrat administrations, but it's not like the red administrations are handling things any better, just not having to deal with these massive probs in less affected metropolises (due to self-selectuin, as in Orange County, or other method??)? Or am I wrong?

New York *has* had some red administrations, but afaik what Rudy did w broken windows and such was similar to initiatives elsewhere - so I don't see the real difference yet. But my knowledge is superficial, as much gut reaction as actual states/ names of cities/knowledge of conditions on the ground.

ETA: Chicago's probs weren't created by BLM, and their Rahm & other blue admins have used some pretty unconstitutional smashball policing techniques, not coddling, yet still probs persist. So how does that fit your "blue city" hypothesis?

No I am criticizing activists

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:08:00 +0000

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No I am criticizing activists for protesting against blue inner city governments. They did all last year. Name one red city that had much trouble, or even one with a more centrist government. The latter basically said: your protests are not welcome here, get the fuck out, we do law and order.

I'm serious about that too. I think there was a concerted effort by white leftist/anarchist to influence BLM protests along the lines of instigating revolution. Look at poor Ted Wheeler in Portland for an example, he was basically crucified day after day, or huge rallies of mostly white college kids yelling "shame shame shame Jacob" at the mayor of Minneapolis for basically doing his job correctly.

Yes, I have a bee in my bonnet and that is: BLM has been an EXTREMELY counterproductive movement, in many, many ways. Maybe even partly on purpose!

Huh? that was exactly my

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:00:48 +0000

In reply to Uh, it's not "blue run city"

Huh? that was exactly my point! that people move to Orange County because it's NOT a blue city with high crime. Hence outrage and interest when there is a shooting there. It wasn't supposed to happen there! Hence the media attention. They give a fuck that's happening in blue cities, they don't chose to live in one, those people are nuts, they like shooting so much in blue cities that nobody bothers to report it anymore.

Seriously! This is the narrative! Everybody freaks about mass shootings in burbs. It's expected behavior in blue inner cities, a nothing burger. Same thing with the mass shooting in Chicago of 15, nobody paid attention, everybody talking about the shootings out at the massage parlors out in quiet on the highway. Same thing with mass shootings at the supermarket or the Walmart out on the highway, or the Hindu temple out in the burbs of Milwaukee for that mater...that's news! It's supposed to be safe.