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"[Justice Democrats]

artappraiser — Thu, 08 Apr 2021 19:45:20 +0000

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"[Justice Democrats] Spokesman Waleed Shahid said the group planned to endorse about the same number of candidates as the six it supported in 2020." https://t.co/z1O3PdDPis
— Bill Scher (@billscher) April 8, 2021

Dems heavily favored in this

artappraiser — Tue, 06 Apr 2021 15:44:26 +0000

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Dems heavily favored in this special, but if Hispanic losses among Dems from 2020 continues...

nominating an Anglo Dem > Hispanic Dem as the nominee can't help. #NM01 https://t.co/BtQWFRpwCZ
— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) April 6, 2021

Two specials worth paying attention to for 2022 tea leaves: #NM01 and #TX06.

Dems solidly favored in first // GOP favored in latter.

But if either party is forced to spend $$ to play defense, it's a sign of weakness -- and red flag for the midterms.
— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) April 6, 2021

the 60 Minutes hit on

artappraiser — Tue, 06 Apr 2021 00:38:34 +0000

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the 60 Minutes hit on DeSantis is a major fail - I have been to Publix quite a few times and agree with Barro's comment on that PLUS the other points made in exchange with Yglesias here finally totally make clear to me why my moderate bi-coastal brother vastly prefers DeSantis to Newsom (it's hard to get him to articulate on that, but he has expressed to me that he thinks pols like Newsom have ruined California "once a paradise") he's not a registered Republican but pretty much despises lefties and wasn't raised that way, that comes from life experience (mom was a bleeding heart liberal)

See also this. Unlike the other MAGA goons, DeSantis has a finely-tuned sense of how to triangulate to appeal simultaneously to GOP base voters and moderate voters. Beware. https://t.co/s1IcY9vRWy
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) April 5, 2021

Also, I think people don't get what a positive image Publix has with Florida consumers. The idea that distributing vaccine at Publix conjures up "sinister corporate coziness" won't survive contact with a Florida voter.
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) April 5, 2021

ALSO, the foaming-at-the-mouth coverage of DeSantis gives him *more* room to tack to the center without looking like a sellout to GOP base voters.
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) April 5, 2021

"beware" is a good warning. We read a lot of DeSantis bashing because he supported Trump, but that was not the whole story about him, lots of people in Florida are happy with him, it might surprise they think of him as a moderate

It's easy to criticize the

ocean-kat — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 21:00:16 +0000

In reply to What's The Matter with The

It's easy to criticize the left for it's response to disinformation and hate on the internet. I've done it myself But if that's all you do, if you don't seriously look at the problem and come up with some alternative means to deal with it you're not advancing the discussion. The answer to bad free speech is more free speech has been proven to not be a workable response to what is a very real problem.

The same study ranked 10

artappraiser — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:35:42 +0000

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The same study ranked 10 Democrats and 73 Republicans lower than @AOC.

https://t.co/HjZowbTbEm https://t.co/kr3GciQ4Xg
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) April 3, 2021

What's The Matter with The

artappraiser — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:38:14 +0000

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What's The Matter with The Woke? you ask? Thomas Frank answers: Liberals want to blame rightwing 'misinformation' for our problems. Get real

Thomas Frank warns Democrats about the folly of aligning with censorious scolds on the left as they abandon liberal ideals around free speech and expression:https://t.co/mdYlGVqRBj
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) March 31, 2021

Not to go there anymore, but

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 27 Mar 2021 06:27:00 +0000

In reply to hah, you get angry at him for

Not to go there anymore, but Bill's consultation with black leaders to combat crime, his midnight basketball, his increase of blacks in gov positions, immigration,ending welfare as we know it, etc all might seem "pandering" as well. I just think it was more allowed to confront problems where they lay at that time, rather than by Obama's time it all had to be spread out equally, no favoritism of any sort. (Except pro low-tax Republicans and white gun-toting ranchers, but i get ahead of myself.) The Republicans it seems to me got us in this "liberals are always pandering" self restraint mode, while shamelessly pandering to their support groups.

But understanding Hispanics are largely conservative and out of reach in Florida, why have Dems pandered si poorly to Hispanics elsewhere? Perhaps thinking the only thing they care about is immigration? Even to bring Hillary back in, i thought she did a crappy job speaking to Hispanics from what started out as an aggrandized 50-state push. Was this concern pissing off the black base, just a lost in translation, too many other battle states to contend with, or what? But fight too many small battles, you lose the bigger picture - the Hispanic population has been growing and *needs* some attention, not just a "check, your in the big tent". People have specific needs. Defining them only on those needs is unhelpful, but ignoring key differences is also.

For women as a demographic, it's a bit tricky - they have standard issues from work equality, childbearing, usually being the caretaker for the elderly, safety, etc, but roughly half women are conservatives with many of the same fuck government, guns & self-sufficiency that feeds the Republicans. Proposing better healthcare might seem sensible, but it doesn't produce those automated results that were expected. "Healthcare for all" is oddly divisive, thanks in part to anti-socialist indoctrination plus the American people's innate orneriness, "don't tell me what to do" (flattered as "rugged individualism"). I remember my brother segued cleanly from a rant on how government can't do everything to being pissed they forgot to remind him his license had expired before a trip. Anonymous individualist in the collective, but want fawning special attention as well. It's a tough balance to maintain.

"Defending her" is hardly my

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 26 Mar 2021 19:17:00 +0000

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"Defending her" is hardly my point.
Joe Biden did raise his 2 kids by himself for 4 years after his wife's death - on a decent salary, but still. But most professional women essentially raise their kids while holding down jobs, many (most say?) less-well paid, and aren't credited with being the hero that Joe is. I'm sure more than a few lost their husbands, and kids, but I don't recall a story that made the rounds like his.
Biden, Kerry, Edwards, Daschle - all Democratic stalwarts who voted for the Iraq AUMF, all pretty well untainted.
Kerry was Secretary of State for Obama's 2nd term - not a lot of taint on him for not ending Afghanistan, for continuing support of Syrian rebels, for not fixing Libya and leaving the chaos to reign.
Biden was VP for both Obama's terms - nothing about him being a warmonger, or people demanding to see his transcripts of talks to Connecticut insurance & credit card companies.
Some people were really thinking Michelle Obama should be President based on her being likable. Okay, maybe not that many, but it's out there - who knows. & frankly, she'd probably do a better job than Trump. But it's a weird call.
Now look at the grief female cabinet nominees get over the scads of jerk male nominees. Both politicized & gender skewed.
Hillary had Bill, whatever the other factors - she did come with protection, for whatever she earned.
Glimpse at Elaine Chao - competent, but nothing like the favors she got with Mitch.
Now think about what most female candidates go through - an Elizabeth Warren or whoever.
For some time they have it good - no one takes them seriously.
Then the weirdness starts.
Consider the female matchups in the last campaign - a "Course in Miracles" weirdo debating an expert on financial regulation? An 8-year Congresswoman whose career highlight was a few months in a nursing unit in Iraq & going rogue to visit the head of Syria vs. a stable 3rd term Senator? And in the end we got Clyburn's pick, a woman of color, as a backroom horse trade. Frankly I'm relieved it seems to have worked out so far, but it really really really seems sucky the way our messed up elections with messed up media go. The game is to survive the odd media fetishes and *still* somehow inspire people, rather than address any big issues. With Biden he was able to do "I've been around since the Great Flood, was a Senator before I rode training wheels, & you know what I'm about - and BTW my opponent is a criminal nutjob", and then back into the Covid lockdown house - which again was fitting for 2020, but I hope to never see it again.

Here's what I, as a feminist,

artappraiser — Fri, 26 Mar 2021 18:51:38 +0000

In reply to 1) a "first woman running for

Here's what I, as a feminist, see in all your arguments defending Hillary: very sweet, well-intentioned chivalry. Which is not the kind of support a real feminist should welcome. I for one don't buy the long lists you make defending Hillary because I see them as chivalrous attempts to defend someone who should be capable of defending herself and doing it the smart way. I see someone like Amy Klobuchar or Rep. Spanenberger and I see a woman who is capable of being both a feminist and a moderate all by herself without help from sympathetic men like Peracles Please.

if Biden truly does manage to

artappraiser — Fri, 26 Mar 2021 18:40:33 +0000

In reply to Krugman sounds awful

if Biden truly does manage to get "Infrastructure week" to be a real thing along the lines of "Build Back Better", it just hit me with this news item, there's gonna be real complicated "supply chain" issues to manage as well:

Lumber prices are so high that many builders are holding back on construction https://t.co/0l3DAs7NQe BusinessInsider
— Dr. Joseph Frusci (@JFrusci) March 26, 2021

talk about interest groups, there are all kinds of them...