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I left home just after

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 28 Jan 2022 11:37:00 +0000

In reply to agree with you that 18 is too

I left home just after turning 17. For thousands of years people were getting married at 13 & 14, even outside arranged marriages, plus there was little "childhood" when you took on adult chores at 12. How does Central Asia and Africa fit with these age brackets? (Keeping young girls in school vs allowing them freedom/a longer life arc). Our 21 for drinking is pretty weird, holdover from prohibition i guess, but it queers our idea of adulthood for other things. But do we save all budding adults from bad decisions? Birth control & morning after pills should solve one of the biggest worries. The line between consent & rape is something females have to deal with for decades later, not just college campuses, so it's not quite like these laws have solved a societal issue, they just tried to improve it by drawing a line, but since it's about the capabilities and maturity of real humans, it's all rather arbitrary. Divorce used to be disallowed, but i see people who are ideal for each other on their 2nd or 3rd try. Let's check back in 100 years, see where we got.

I didn't say 18 was too high.

ocean-kat — Fri, 28 Jan 2022 09:40:10 +0000

In reply to agree with you that 18 is too

I didn't say 18 was too high. I said I don't know. And I recognize it's all very arbitrary. But if a kid is still in high school grown men shouldn't be fucking them. Especially not 30 and 40 year old men. You may have been precocious while others might not be ready to make mature decisions at 18 or later. I'm perfectly fine with choosing 18 as the arbitrary cut off point. Lewinsky was 21 so I agree, no innocent child.

agree with you that 18 is too

artappraiser — Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:50:23 +0000

In reply to Still having trouble caring

agree with you that 18 is too high; would make more sense if it was like 16.

it's kind of a boomer thing - we fought because of Vietnam draft to have the vote and have the drinking age lowered to 18 in many places, to be treated as an adult. but as parents all of a sudden there is this back sliding to helicopter parenting and college students are children and you still pay all their bills. well, I didn't have any children, I find a lot of that ridiculous and I'm still with the idea that I was an adult not just at 18 but at like at least 17....

edit to add: when it really started standing out for me is when right wingers started claiming Monica Lewinsky was a innocent child, that's when it went over the top

Still having trouble caring

ocean-kat — Fri, 28 Jan 2022 06:38:40 +0000

In reply to Still having trouble caring

Still having trouble caring if a bunch of 17-18 year old girls wanna go do a bunch of Molly & bang sleazy men for some Benjamins and party favors.

We've decided as a society to protect young people from mistakes they might make due to immaturity. Some age has to be picked to define "youth" that are protected and those old enough to protect thenselves though they might be immature also. Basically we decided to pick 18 in most cases. Is it the "right" age? I don't know. But I talked often with the brother of a friend and once he made the exact same argument you're making about a 13 year old prosititute. He really felt is was wrong that he couldn't fuck her because she was 100% consenting to let him do it for 20 bucks.

UPDATE:

artappraiser — Thu, 27 Jan 2022 08:02:58 +0000

In reply to A Personal Anecdote Regarding the Matt Gaetz Situation

UPDATE:

Walls. Closing. https://t.co/HprS6NEPc3
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 27, 2022

Rep. Matt Gaetz has finally

artappraiser — Thu, 21 Oct 2021 19:28:04 +0000

In reply to A Personal Anecdote Regarding the Matt Gaetz Situation

Rep. Matt Gaetz has finally started to keep his mouth shut. Turns out, that strategy has consequences. https://t.co/7cUtTGx2jb
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) October 21, 2021

As she gets older, Monica

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 22 May 2021 10:35:24 +0000

In reply to re:Making it public didn't

As she gets older, Monica will seem like the wry Jewish grandmother most of us never had. It's also funny that the joke that was already unfunny a week in now gets more hilarious year by year (part has to do with the set-up & delivery, i realize). It's also curious that 1950's Ivy League co-eds were more comfortable with blowjobs than our post-Monica scolds, no matter how many explicit rap records there are.

re:Making it public didn't

artappraiser — Sat, 22 May 2021 03:59:11 +0000

In reply to A Personal Anecdote Regarding the Matt Gaetz Situation

re:Making it public didn't really seem like a good idea, since I'm a little person in this world and these were clearly much bigger people I was in the midst of.

I thought of you saying that when I saw this:

https://t.co/lrr5eCeCsA
— Monica Lewinsky (she/her) (@MonicaLewinsky) May 21, 2021

looking like it's not going

artappraiser — Fri, 14 May 2021 20:14:08 +0000

In reply to right now hits me as the

looking like it's not going to stop tho-

Joel Greenberg, Former Matt Gaetz Confidant, Pleads Guilty - The New York Times https://t.co/jRyZ4tIrY3
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) May 14, 2021

In space no one can hear you

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 12 May 2021 19:19:51 +0000

In reply to OIC! I ran across this

In space no one can hear you scream.