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Feds plan to indict Chauvin,

artappraiser — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 23:20:46 +0000

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Feds plan to indict Chauvin, other three ex-officers on civil rights charges

BREAKING: Feds will ask grand jury to indict Derek Chauvin, three other ex-Minneapolis officers, on federal civil rights charges for police brutality--meaning another round of trials could be on the way.https://t.co/IAVcYvL38a
— Patriota Ariana Wells (@usambovu) April 29, 2021

Law & Crime video interview

artappraiser — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 20:00:35 +0000

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Law & Crime video interview with Chauvin juror (a young black male one) about deliberations:

WATCH: Find out which charge jurors immediately found ex-Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin guilty of. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber @jessecordweber has an in-depth conversation with the first Derek Chauvin trial juror to talk about deliberations. pic.twitter.com/7viTMSGgQG
— Law&Crime Network (@LawCrimeNetwork) April 29, 2021

Interesting point about

artappraiser — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 19:16:51 +0000

In reply to Alternate juror in Huffpost

Interesting point about Gladwell and facial expressions, because: he's in the biz of trying to help people navigate life more skillfully than most people do. But our jury system is just built on "peers" considered to be ordinary citizens, and they are allowed to do that and anything else people regularly do. Because any "experts" being presented to them, they are also presumed to be spinning, not totally objective, as it's an advocacy system. The group consensus is supposed to be the safeguard, i.e., like in the movie "12 Angry Men", where the one stubborn guy convinces all 11 others to look harder change their mind. That's where the prejudicial, knee-jerk or faulty reads are supposed to be counteracted. Is why both sides have input in picking the jurors.

Alternate juror in Huffpost

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 23 Apr 2021 04:59:00 +0000

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Alternate juror in Huffpost didn't provide much new except that the prosecution largely made it's case methodically, i clueing when loss ilof life occurred while defense promised much more than it delivered, which was my impression. (The case largely ignored the $20 bill as irrelevant, which seems fitting).

These comments struck me as a good summary:

Kathy Denno

All the prosecution witnesses came across as caring, compassionate people. The defense witnesses, not so much. I agree Dr. Tobin was one of the strongest witnesses. He explained very complicated material in a soft, gentle manner and used simple explanations that were understandable. It was like the defense was throwing everything out there hoping something would stick. And then there was the video and the look on Chauvin's face. Thank you Darnella for providing that for us.

Marie McBride

I’ve been in healthcare for 35 years. Taken care of HIV, H1N1 and now Covid patients. Have had cars wreck in front of me and stopped to render aid. Did the Heimlich on someone at a steak house. When I watched that video of George Floyd last year I was screaming. Screaming do CPR!!!!! Do CPR!!!! He’s dying!!!! Justice was served absolutely.

Even tho Malcolm Gladwell points out nicely the folly of trying to interpret things like the look on someone's face - the need for CPR was her expertise.

The plus sides about the Chauvin trial were that it involved a slow act, rather than judging cops on split second decisions, it broke the Blue Wall of Silence (though I'm skeptical of the statements re what standard procedure or policing as everyday practice), and it did deflate Qualified Immunity, which was way overbroad (though a lot of work will have to be done to replace that assumption with workable rules - lots of opinions out there, man naive and kneejerk, and not promoting safety at a time of weird gun-unflated craziness)

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Orion — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:30:56 +0000

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Tuckers got the nitrous out

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:25:05 +0000

In reply to oops well that was before the

Tuckers got the nitrous out it appears

they're really struggling

artappraiser — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 02:49:59 +0000

In reply to oops well that was before the

they're really struggling with the fair and balanced thing over there:

Judge Jeanine said on air that this was a fair and just verdict. Tucker has staked out a more extreme position than her!
— Jan Wolfe (@JanNWolfe) April 21, 2021

oops well that was before the

artappraiser — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 02:07:36 +0000

In reply to is true, I just turned it on

oops well that was before the Tucker showed up to furnish the correct talking points and directed where the narrative should go:

It’s really something how much of the right has talked itself into an anti-anti-chauvin view https://t.co/HeaCshd1ut
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) April 21, 2021

Black Lives Matter figures

artappraiser — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:32:32 +0000

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Black Lives Matter figures nows the time to start lecturing Joe and Kamala about how they got it all wrong:

@joebiden @kamalaharris, right now, are calling for the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act.

George Floyd’s life wouldn't have been saved by the provisions of this bill—this bill calls for reform. More cameras, more training, more money spent on policing. pic.twitter.com/d1D8L0krd5
— Black Lives Matter (@Blklivesmatter) April 20, 2021

We've BEEN doing this. We don’t need the Justice in Policing Act. We need the BREATHE Act. A radically different reimagining of community safety.

Community safety—a value of Black life— is what keeps Black folks safe. Not more police.https://t.co/Vo4DmsiFpo
— Black Lives Matter (@Blklivesmatter) April 20, 2021

TRUMP PROMISED BLACKS A

NCD — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 00:14:06 +0000

In reply to AOC says Chauvin conviction

TRUMP PROMISED BLACKS A PLATINUM PLAN!

AOC?