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artappraiser — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 07:06:49 +0000

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And when they're talking

artappraiser — Sun, 22 Aug 2021 02:18:42 +0000

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And when they're talking about police shootings they switch from numerical to proportionate. The statistical leaning is based on whatever narrative they want to tell. (Probably best not to racialize these topics at all but that may be too much to ask of CNN.) https://t.co/V1K1vcF4ue
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) August 21, 2021

similar:

artappraiser — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 07:29:37 +0000

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similar:

"That’s how far the left has moved: Barack Obama is now by their definition an enabler of 'white supremacy'. You keep asking: what happened to me? I haven't moved an inch. What, in contrast, has happened to *you*?"https://t.co/xUE2pYnOnU
— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) July 9, 2021

example of related from guy I

artappraiser — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 02:02:05 +0000

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example of related from guy I just ran across, self-describes as Pro-Free Speech. Classical Liberal, and against all those who would prevent free speech & open debate.

Had a friend who owned a AC company way back after the Rodney King riots & they were hired to install an AC unit to a rebuild fast food place. Diversity requirements were mandatory so they hired black day laborers to visually be moving stuff around. All the diversity hires (1/5)
— Zetetic Advocate (@ZeteticAdvocate) July 10, 2021

were performative since none of them had the necessary training. It was meaningless work to conform to a play acting requirement. I expect much of the current “diversity & inclusion” ideology is also mainly performative & is also about “visually looking virtuous.” Lies to (2/5
— Zetetic Advocate (@ZeteticAdvocate) July 10, 2021

sooth the souls of elites who really are racist, or believe America is hopelessly racist. However they’re not going to give up their position of power so instead they’ll talk endlessly about white privilege knowing it won’t effect them, or their children. Sure some poor (3/5)
— Zetetic Advocate (@ZeteticAdvocate) July 10, 2021

white kid will get shafted, but who cares. We’ll pretend the poor & lower middle class whites have privilege so elites can pretend to have virtue. Meanwhile the minorities are encouraged to see themselves as victims so the same elites can feel good helping raise. An ugly (4/5)
— Zetetic Advocate (@ZeteticAdvocate) July 10, 2021

paternalism settles over the elites that sees minorities as children & denies them the dignity of being autonomous individuals. Instead they’re judged always by their race & never by their character.
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— Zetetic Advocate (@ZeteticAdvocate) July 10, 2021

as to his point in tweet #5, reminds me of what I posted recently this other thread, two grownup black guys basically offended as being marketed to as naughty and dumb children, certainly no "dignity" there in that video ad for vaccination

I dont agree with all of this

artappraiser — Sat, 10 Jul 2021 01:44:09 +0000

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I dont agree with all of this but it is a cautionary tale for progressives. Policies based on class, are far more popular than policies based on race.

A middle class rebellion against progressives is coming | Opinionhttps://t.co/yEZhox99vB
— Doug Little (@jdouglaslittle) June 4, 2021

MSN paywall-free link for the same article:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/a-middle-class-rebellion-against-progressives-is-gaining-steam-opinion/ar-AAKGpvT

excerpt:

[....] This new middle-class rebellion isn't rejecting everything that progressives stand for; the Left's critique of neo-liberal excess is resonating, as is the need for improved access to health care. But the current focus on "systemic racism," coupled with a newfound and heavily enforced cultural conformism and the obsessive focus on a never-ending litany of impending "climate emergences" are less likely to pass muster with most of the middle class, no matter how popular they are with the media, academics, and others in the progressive corner.

And this new middle-class rebellion is being bolstered by a wide-ranging intellectual rebellion by traditional liberals against the Left's dogmatism and intolerance. Indeed, what we're about to see has the potential to reprise the great shift among old liberals that had them embracing Reagan in reaction to the Left's excesses of that generation.

In a way, this should not be surprising. After all, the progressive base is limited: According to a survey conducted by the non-partisan group More in Common, progressives constitute barely eight percent of the electorate. The report also found that fully 80 percent of all Americans believe that "political correctness is a problem," including large majorities of millennials and racial minorities.

Party line journalists may see President Biden as the new champion of the middle class, but every time he adopts central tenets of the new Left, he undermines his pitch. And this happens not infrequently: The Biden Administration has adopted elements of the "anti-racist" agenda, for example, by explicitly favoring Black farmers for subsidies, rather than focusing on all farmers in need. Race issues may be popular on college campuses and in the human relations departments of giant corporations like Lockheed and Amazon, but a recent Yale study found that language based on inclusivity around class was far more popular than one focused largely on race, even with progressive voters.

This is not the message coming out of the Biden administration, which has put a premium on diversity hiring and "equity," despite the fact that racial quotas, in hiring or in college admissions, are unpopular with three out of four Americans, including African-Americans and Hispanics; 65% of Hispanics, 62% of black Americans and 58% of Asians oppose affirmative action in college admissions.

Biden is similarly losing the middle class on immigration. Already many Latinos, particularly in Texas and Arizona, fear the loss of border control that accompanied the shift from Trump to Biden administrations. The crisis at the border has the potential to overwhelm the economies, health and welfare systems in heavily Hispanic border communities, which is sparking alarm among border state Democrats.

None of this is to suggest that minorities will vote for Republicans en masse in the near future [....]

I do love this so:

artappraiser — Mon, 31 May 2021 22:35:26 +0000

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I do love this so:

Where is this legend? We need him pic.twitter.com/trOypkN4vP
— Rafael Higonnet-Faithfull (@RafFaithfull) April 30, 2021

Just how overtly she's

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 31 May 2021 15:36:10 +0000

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Just how overtly she's threatening to fire them - man, anyone speaks like that to me, if I have the slightest chance to leave or get revenge...

You gotta laugh that in

artappraiser — Mon, 31 May 2021 14:37:29 +0000

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You gotta laugh that in another woke circle, the speaker would be excoriated for appropriating an Afro-American head wrap and some kind of African-type cloth for her blouse. To me, it borders on blackface.

Ah, but this is what zealous grade school teachers do, isn't it? And they call it being creative.

Fun little dangerous cult we

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 31 May 2021 13:50:32 +0000

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Fun little dangerous cult we have cooking! https://t.co/dm9Sxz0Kh2
— Tim Dillon (@TimJDillon) May 29, 2021

I have some pride in these

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 27 May 2021 05:17:00 +0000

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I have some pride in these cultural-industrial EuroAmerican experiments largely (but not only) built by classes of white people. The Russians tho white have largely been outside that experiment, mostly chipping away but Peter the Great seemed to have the right idea. The European Union while nice is a bit incomplete still - huge gaps in instituting foreign policy, encouraging innovation, handling crises like Covid - but the Greek/Roman thing was crucial - Brits couldn't have done it on their own for sure, but added the right panache (a somewhat curious word for Brits, sometimes flare, sometimes a bit not Ng)

1776 was a bit like Chaos Moneys' image of Silicon Valley - started by some clever white guys, but designed as an open growable model that allowed all comers except they had to check for "cultural fit", which was kind of that Henry Ford thing - any color as long as kind of white. Chinese, Hispanic, Black, whatever - just act a bit white. Not cowboy-wilderness-hoot-em-up Chicago-gangland kind of white, just show-up-for-work educate-the-kids be-free-but-not-too-much-headache kind of white. Again, it's "cultural fit" - we know it when we see it, but hard to define, sure is exclusionary but these days less and less. If you're eating breakfast cereal, you're pretty much in. If not, we may or may not have a problem.

I like what largely white people have done with culture, including appropriating others' art and twisting it a bit, also the tech his of course. I like how "we" have taken literature, from Dickens on, even though "Color Purple" and "Cry the Beloved Country" easily fit that development - the author's skin color doesn't redefine the cultural milieu, though can shift it. There certainly is more acceptance of Black influence on American "white" culture vs Chinese or other Asian, Hispanic, Native - there's no real equivalent to Public Enemy or Motown or Chuck Berry or similar non-musical cultural influences. Polish or Italian or Irish are just subsets of "white" America, come on out for St Paddies or Cinco de Mayo kind of thing. Wall Street is money white; Silicon Valley is Indian-Asian-Black--Hispanic-white white.