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yes I was born and lived in

artappraiser — Wed, 05 May 2021 21:22:03 +0000

In reply to I think she means the Midwest

yes I was born and lived in Milwaukee until age 29 and my father worked for the city of Milwaukee. the police there were not corrupt at that time, I have no idea whether they are now. city hall was somewhat, tho, because of the newspaper monopoly in town which also owned major tv and radio. was very powerful player.

Every damn part of NYC

artappraiser — Wed, 05 May 2021 18:11:47 +0000

In reply to Back in 'the day', NYC cops

Every damn part of NYC government has been extremely corrupt at one time or another, going back to Boss Tweed and before that. Why should the cops be any different?

Mostly under the Democratic party. When I moved here while it was still under Koch I couldn't believe the daily corruption and just general entitlement that nearly all government workers felt they had to treat citizens like dirt. Donald Manes didn't committ suicide by sticking a knife in his belly because he was running a great operation for the taxpayers in the Parking Violations Bureau.

I was shocked daily by how this city was run. Total bias verification for my voter registration as an Independent before I moved here. And they're all coming back under DeBlasio, the creepy crawler corrupt Democratic machine.

Edit to add: Bloomberg had a noxious nanny state pill of a personality, but he was the best damn mayor this city ever had, precisely because he was a billionaire who couldn't be bought or coopted by them. Yes, we elected and re-elected a dictator, and he did a great job of cleansing for a while.

I think she means the Midwest

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 05 May 2021 18:06:00 +0000

In reply to Back in 'the day', NYC cops

I think she means the Midwest - less corrupt by far.

If course we knew the police would bust you for dope or harass for long hair, but mostly it wasn't a thing we obsessed on

P.S. They agree with me, how

artappraiser — Wed, 05 May 2021 17:52:42 +0000

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P.S. They agree with me, how it works (but of course, we don't agree that "all cops" are like Chauvin, still, their bigger point about fear)

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— Indigenous Anarchist Federation (@IAF__FAI) April 20, 2021

They chose not to have government and to protect against criminal elements themselves. Which for some is pie-in-the-sky kumbaya community councils, but for most in reality it means everybody has guns.)

From Wikipedia

rmrd0000 — Wed, 05 May 2021 17:43:32 +0000

In reply to Really, if you can come up

From Wikipedia

Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is a term that refers to awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice.[4] It is sometimes used in the African-American Vernacular English expression stay woke. Wokeresurfaced in 2014, during the Black Lives Matter movement, as a label for vigilance and activism concerning racial inequalities [5] and other socialdisparities such as discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community, women, immigrants and other marginalized populations.[6]

You may using a different meaning

Back in 'the day', NYC cops

NCD — Wed, 05 May 2021 17:39:32 +0000

In reply to My father worked as a civil

Back in 'the day', NYC cops were exactly as corrupt as Serpico testified, and risked his life doing so.

If your Dad didn't know that he didn't know jack.

I will not go through my list of personal experiences living in NYC, often hearing accounts from neighbors and friends who ran businesses (some tragically ironic 'Don't pay the cops, pay us (the 'mob') and we'll take care of the cops'), and also harassment of blacks.

I SAW NYC COPS shaking down a contractor FOR CASH, I was witness to the cop pocketing the money from a second story window, as the enraged facility manager watched with me and explained what was going on.

Money, to allow the movement of heavy equipment from the truck, across an 8 foot wide sidewalk, onto the property of the largest, most prestigious and oldest university in Manhattan.

If they were on the take there, they were doing it everywhere. Fear? The victims were too afraid of police to report it.

I imagine. and hope, they at less corrupt now.

"Woke" began as meaning alert

rmrd0000 — Wed, 05 May 2021 17:35:52 +0000

In reply to You use Woke as a synonymy

"Woke" began as meaning alert to things going on in society

Now, "Woke" means whatever you want it to mean.

Woke Blacks:

Oprah Winfrey

LaBron James

Here is are lesser known names, but powerful businesspeople from the Black Economic Alliance

To achieve its objectives, BEA has assembled a collection of powerhouses like board co-chairs Charles Phillips, CEO of tech colossus Infor, and N. Anthony Coles, chairman and CEO of biotech firm Cerevel Therapeutics as well as advisory board members Dick Parsons, former chairman of Citigroup; Carla Harris, vice chairman, Global Wealth Management at Morgan Stanley: and Susan Rice, former US Ambassador to the United Nations who had been considered for Biden’s running mate.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/group-of-powerful-black-business-leaders-endorse-joe-biden-kamala-harris/

Really, if you can come up

artappraiser — Wed, 05 May 2021 17:27:36 +0000

In reply to You use Woke as a synonymy

Really, if you can come up with a link showing how Ken Chenault and Ken Frazier agree that America is an evil colonialist empire, police and prisons should be abolished, and everyone needs to chose the pronouns they would like people to use to address them, you win. But I suspect it would be easier to find evidence that they think Amazon treats its workers just fine and that they pay enough in taxes already.

My father worked as a civil

artappraiser — Wed, 05 May 2021 17:08:27 +0000

In reply to Oddly i can't remember

My father worked as a civil servant negotiating contracts with city workers. When I grew older, I learned he despised the police as a union, thought they were arrogant and full of themselves and got paid too much for what they do compared to others, with gravy early retirements. But when I was younger, and with my four younger brothers, there was a real clear message: the police are not your friend! Be afraid of them! Behave yourself! Don't just be polite to them, don't draw their attention! Don't even get parking tickets! Looking back I see he himself was very afraid of things like being stopped. As he got older, though, and more confident from his experience from his job, and what they were supposed to do, I saw more than one instance of him willing to challenge them, chastise them if they were not doing their job correctly. As if he were their boss. Which he actually was part of, being their boss, representing the taxpayers who paid them.

Looking back now as an old person myself, this is what I also see: my father didn't like authoritarians (nor Republicans, was Democrat all his life) and was obsessive about fairness. BUT rule of law with police enforcing is of necessity an authoritarian operation. In a democracy everyone agrees what the rules are going to be. FEAR IS HOW IT WORKS, people have to fear getting in trouble. Without fear, lots of people won't obey those rules.

My father had it right from the getgo: police are not your friend. But you want them nonetheless, unless you are an anarchist or a "live free or die"anti-gummin libertarian right winger.

You use Woke as a synonymy

artappraiser — Wed, 05 May 2021 16:45:13 +0000

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You use Woke as a synonymy for Democrat; clearly a lot of Democrats don't agree with you.

You also seem to think that public protesting on the streets has been productive as to the matter of voter suppression. I see a ton of evidence that that's not been the case, including this article just posted by you.

There's been a ton of political activity but not street protesting. So far corporate action is really where there is a chance of an effect on the Republicans trying to do it. Not only do they not give a shit about protestors and "activists", they

I seem to see many more successful Woke Blacks then I see successful Conservative Blacks. Name a few.

Most "successful" people believing in capitalism, if you mean monetarily successful. And most people have the impression that "The Woke" are anti-capitalist socialists I certainly do and I read a lot of "Woke".