dagblog - Comments for "Rioting amid demonstrations for racial justice may have helped Donald Trump" http://dagblog.com/link/rioting-amid-demonstrations-racial-justice-may-have-helped-donald-trump-34317 Comments for "Rioting amid demonstrations for racial justice may have helped Donald Trump" en maybe not fair but always fun http://dagblog.com/comment/306171#comment-306171 <a id="comment-306171"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/rioting-amid-demonstrations-racial-justice-may-have-helped-donald-trump-34317">Rioting amid demonstrations for racial justice may have helped Donald Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>maybe not fair but always fun  to check on the past wisdom of MSM talking heads</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="und" xml:lang="und">May 31, 2020: <a href="https://t.co/W7j5wweiWt">pic.twitter.com/W7j5wweiWt</a></p> — Daniel Steinmetz-Jenkins (@daniel_dsj2110) <a href="https://twitter.com/daniel_dsj2110/status/1399431687939973122?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Mon, 31 May 2021 18:22:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 306171 at http://dagblog.com right wingers just love the http://dagblog.com/comment/306037#comment-306037 <a id="comment-306037"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/306035#comment-306035">The originating problem is</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>right wingers just love the angry radical rhetoric, they promote it on social media whenever they find it, here's an example I just ran across:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote height="" width=""> <p>“We gonna blow your mother f—ng head off” <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BLM?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BLM</a> protester in Kansas City on bullhorn talks about how she and her crew will carry out revenge killings against police. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GeorgeFloyd?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GeorgeFloyd</a> <a href="https://t.co/1h6JuqhpQP">pic.twitter.com/1h6JuqhpQP</a></p> — Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1397404513678491648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2021</a></blockquote> </div> <p>Note there's 2,900 retweets on that, which go out to all the followers of the retweeters. Would certainly reach enough people to make thousands of angry comments on a news site...</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 28 May 2021 16:46:47 +0000 artappraiser comment 306037 at http://dagblog.com The originating problem is http://dagblog.com/comment/306035#comment-306035 <a id="comment-306035"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/306031#comment-306031">When Murdoch social media</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The originating problem is that she used very radical divisive rhetoric, stirring the hate pot, so much so that Russian media saw her as a poster child to do it's trolling thing - example: op-ed in RT, Sept. 1, 2020: <a href="https://www.rt.com/op-ed/499628-sasha-johnson-blm-oxford/">The ‘Oxford Black Panther’ behind Britain’s first black-led political party vows to make white men ‘our slaves’</a>. Murdoch media, of course, will pick up on anything inflammatory going on that sells.</p> <p>I didn't dig into nuance about what she really believed and any mischaracterization of her statements, that may well have been case. But when someone talks using that kind of language, they should expect similar language back in kind. So why even bother figuring out what she really believes, because the language she uses is inflammatory and the reaction to it is not going to be calmed by trying to explain to folks.</p> <p>Heck, anarchists have long done this on purpose, to get the war on. Like the tweet I posted above 05/25/2021 - 1:01pm says<em> Agent provocateurs know this.</em></p> <p>Not of course, to be shot for hate speech. But it seems as if just as many of her ardent followers, especially as prone as they are to  mistrust police, believe the shooting was a hate crime and that is being covered up by police. As far as I am concerned, all these people, both sides, are invested in hate, looking to stoke wherever they can find it. It is no coincidence that it is EXACTLY what Russian trolls were preying on with the leadup to the Trump election in the U.S. and thereafter. They actually would set up fake radical black web pages saying the same kind of stuff she did.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 28 May 2021 16:14:01 +0000 artappraiser comment 306035 at http://dagblog.com When Murdoch social media http://dagblog.com/comment/306031#comment-306031 <a id="comment-306031"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/rioting-amid-demonstrations-racial-justice-may-have-helped-donald-trump-34317">Rioting amid demonstrations for racial justice may have helped Donald Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>When Murdoch social media stirs the news in the opposite direction:<br /></p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">What followed was chilling. The clip rocketed up YouTube's algorithm, topping 200,000 views &amp; 9,000 comments.<br /><br /> The most popular comments, boosted by the algorithm, were disgusting. Praising the shooter. Mocking the victim. Calling for more violence.<a href="https://t.co/X3SZ4hB1RU">https://t.co/X3SZ4hB1RU</a></p> — Kevin Rudd (@MrKRudd) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrKRudd/status/1397656978701176834?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 28 May 2021 07:08:49 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 306031 at http://dagblog.com California Man Sentenced for http://dagblog.com/comment/305920#comment-305920 <a id="comment-305920"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/rioting-amid-demonstrations-racial-justice-may-have-helped-donald-trump-34317">Rioting amid demonstrations for racial justice may have helped Donald Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">California Man Sentenced for Setting Fire to Republican Club with Molotov Cocktail<a href="https://t.co/NIoYCNluw3">https://t.co/NIoYCNluw3</a></p> — Law &amp; Crime (@lawcrimenews) <a href="https://twitter.com/lawcrimenews/status/1397360586741096448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 26 May 2021 01:29:10 +0000 artappraiser comment 305920 at http://dagblog.com Morris's first two tweets, http://dagblog.com/comment/305895#comment-305895 <a id="comment-305895"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/rioting-amid-demonstrations-racial-justice-may-have-helped-donald-trump-34317">Rioting amid demonstrations for racial justice may have helped Donald Trump</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Morris's first two tweets, and part of discussion that follows all three:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">New data piece:<br /><br /> A study found peaceful BLM/George Floyd protests last year were correlated with increases in vote share for Joe Biden. But more violent demonstrations (such as rioting in Kenosha) appear to have dragged him down by significant margins:<a href="https://t.co/VnxFMxizxk">https://t.co/VnxFMxizxk</a> <a href="https://t.co/RylML6HRNq">pic.twitter.com/RylML6HRNq</a></p> — G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) <a href="https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1395376081109192709?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">If you include proximity to Kenosha in a model that predicts precinct-level WI elec results, it is highly correlated with gains for Trump even after controlling for other factors. Biden did about 2.4 points worse in downtown Kenosha than in an identical Milwaukee precinct. <a href="https://t.co/3ymua6KLQr">pic.twitter.com/3ymua6KLQr</a></p> — G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) <a href="https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1395376083734781954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en"><a href="https://twitter.com/owasow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@owasow</a> wrote a paper about this right?</p> — Jacob Herbstman (@jacobherbstman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jacobherbstman/status/1395440465260941312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">In 1960s, I do find similar results. <a href="https://t.co/MlEU5brcOc">https://t.co/MlEU5brcOc</a></p> — Omar Wasow (@owasow) <a href="https://twitter.com/owasow/status/1395458129073086466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Agent Provocateurs know this.</p> — D. Stamos/Helodriver (@SpacecoastPix) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpacecoastPix/status/1395388678323638274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 25 May 2021 17:01:14 +0000 artappraiser comment 305895 at http://dagblog.com