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Robert also has pointed to

artappraiser — Sun, 05 Sep 2021 21:06:46 +0000

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Robert also has pointed to

artappraiser — Sun, 05 Sep 2021 20:57:53 +0000

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Robert also has pointed to this

"Thank goodness there is a group of intellectuals prepared to stand up and argue back against the baying woke mob who are trying to rewrite the history not just of the UK but all western democracies."@ArleneFosterUK on @History_Reclaim & the Guy statue.https://t.co/nIRiaEvNyx
— Save Our Statues -Robert Poll (@_SaveOurStatues) September 5, 2021

which reports

Tearing down statues is only one manifestation of this attitude but one of the bright spots of this week has been the announcement that a group of history scholars have decided that enough is enough and they have formed themselves into the group History Reclaimed.

Thank goodness there is a group of intellectuals prepared to stand up and argue back against the baying woke mob who are trying to rewrite the history not just of the UK but all western democracies.

Ever since Black Lives Matter decided to target history and try to blank it out from our collective consciousness, many of our national institutions have spent hours ruminating over the issue [....]

[....] Then came the news this week that after a public consultation the charity which runs Guy's hospital in London, has recommended that the statue of their founder Thomas Guy should be removed from the courtyard of the hospital.

This is despite the fact that 75 percent of those who responded voted to keep the listed monument in place. Thomas Guy has come to attention because back in the 18th century he made the decision to invest in shares in the South Sea company which transported slaves from Africa across the Atlantic to America.

He wasn’t a slave trader himself but he benefitted from that trade. Now in the 21st century despite the fact that he used his financial wherewithal to found one of best known and respected hospitals in the world, and contrary to the consultation results, it has been decided that he should be consigned to the back room of history.

What was the point of the consultation you may ask and indeed will his statue be actually removed even now, as planning permission will have to be given to remove the statue and it is unlikely such permission will be given.

The charity has put itself in the worst of all worlds – recommending removal against the wishes of the public knowing they are unlikely to be successful in their wish.

Or do they just want to pass the buck to someone else to make the decision on actual removal?

and goes on to opine

The assault on our collective history is so brutish, politically inspired and cack-handed. If activists and charities want to have a debate on the historical context of this country let's have it in a reasoned and open way, looking at the good as well as the bad. Trying to deny and erase history as if it didn’t happen is so wrong.

We have evolved as a country and society since the 18th and 19th century, thanks to wonderful Britons like William Wilberforce leading the way against slavery.

The slavery he campaigned against thankfully belongs in the past and we should always reflect on its brutality and inhumanity. Instead of wishing the past was different however we should turn our focus to a much more present issue - modern day slavery.

What do our institutions have to say about modern day slavery? How can we tackle the fact that people smuggling, drug selling and forced prostitution are here in the UK today controlled by crime gangs with a vice-like grip over many vulnerable and powerless people?

If people want a cause to rally to surely that is one, they can rush to – harm to people rather than inanimate statues?? [....]

Historian @sauldavid66 on the

artappraiser — Sun, 05 Sep 2021 20:45:16 +0000

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Historian @sauldavid66 on the dangers of "politicised and inaccurate" plaques. Which is why were must not leave this power in the hands of Labour councillors.https://t.co/jjAsX5pMav
— Save Our Statues -Robert Poll (@_SaveOurStatues) September 5, 2021

5 September 1905: through the

artappraiser — Sun, 05 Sep 2021 20:42:29 +0000

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5 September 1905: through the mediation of Theodore Roosevelt, Russia and Japan sign a peace treaty in Portsmouth, NHhttps://t.co/OxPRcZ7Y5t pic.twitter.com/l7UVTI1DyS
— Citizen Wald (@CitizenWald) September 5, 2021

The Soviet Union applied the

artappraiser — Sat, 21 Aug 2021 14:13:20 +0000

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The Soviet Union applied the Brezhnev Doctrine and invaded Czechoslovakia #OnThisDay in 1968, crushing the Prague Spring. #ColdWar pic.twitter.com/7Nuy54CoDk
— James M. Lindsay (@JamesMLindsay) August 21, 2021

Dundonald Castle has been a

artappraiser — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:06:07 +0000

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Dundonald Castle has been a popular destination for cyclist for well over a century it seems - shown here in this superb photo taken of Portland Cycling Club from Kilmarnock who are pictured outside Dundonald Castle in 1895! #cycling pic.twitter.com/qd1IIuu5de
— Dundonald Castle (@DundonaldCastle) July 27, 2021

#AncestryHour

artappraiser — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 10:50:17 +0000

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#AncestryHour

While I was wandering around my local churchyard last week, I came across the gravestone of a local gentleman and his family.

Llewellyn is buried with his first wife Mary Ann and ten of their children who died in infancy. #Wales #History pic.twitter.com/yPqDcEyGT7
— Louvain Rees ⚰️ (@hellohistoria) March 16, 2021

Thomas Frank skewers

artappraiser — Thu, 22 Jul 2021 02:44:19 +0000

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Thomas Frank skewers historian John Meachem (I'd label him a pop historian, i.e., his stuff is certainly the type of thing Warhol chose for a lot of subject matter!)

his article here

The Man Who Loved Presidents, a right-on critique of Jon Meacham (Biden’s Brain) by Thomas Frank | Harper's Magazine https://t.co/jiDUsv4goo
— Harvey J Kaye (@harveyjkaye) July 20, 2021

Podcast with text summary here:

The Man Who Loved Presidents - Thomas Frank on The Soul of America

Host Violet Lucca, Guest Thomas Frank on July 9, 2021

just a good thread to explore

artappraiser — Sat, 26 Jun 2021 06:08:58 +0000

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just a good thread to explore for the quips, like this one:

We should really blame bacteria as we evolved from them over the last 2.5 billion years.
— Kurt Tazelaar (@KurtTazelaar) June 26, 2021

"On my first full day in

artappraiser — Wed, 23 Jun 2021 20:30:11 +0000

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"On my first full day in Peking, Ma was all smiles. But when I deviated from official truth, which was often, Ma changed to a scolding bully" — Paul Raffaele on his time as the first foreign broadcaster accredited to Mao’s China https://t.co/UNWBmm2NOU
— The Critic (@TheCriticMag) June 23, 2021