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Breaking News: Eric Adams won

artappraiser — Wed, 07 Jul 2021 01:09:40 +0000

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Breaking News: Eric Adams won the Democratic nomination for mayor of New York City, according to The Associated Press, putting him on track to become the second Black mayor in the history of the nation’s largest city. https://t.co/GNbrxPjPn6
— The New York Times (@nytimes) July 6, 2021

this is an excellent detailed

artappraiser — Mon, 05 Jul 2021 19:07:33 +0000

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this is an excellent detailed and knowledgeable article on understanding what's meant by a machine pol in NY and Eric Adams as one

The Company Eric Adams Keeps

He’s the candidate of old political-machine guys like Democratic fixer Frank Carone. What would that mean in City Hall?

By David Freedlander June 17 @ nymag.com

. He only switched to Republican when it was of tactical benefit within NY state politics and everyone involved (i.e., public worker unions, big real estate money) gets that, gives it a mulligan. Doing the type of switching that Adams did in the state's politics is just seen as being very savvy, as in: a dangerous but savvy player of the machine. You really are dealing with a Tammany Hall type situation in NY state, it's not the same division of Dem vs. GOP as elsewhere in the country, it's not so much about ideology is the thing, it's more "pay to play" and fighting over financial constituencies, not ideological ones (heck even the Hasidic Jews basically do the "pay to play" thing, very cynical voting deliverance by the rebbes-i.e., you scratch our back, we'll scratch yours, what they end up getting: lots of welfare for big families! lots of mulligans for that, too.)

Things just aren't as ideological here, that never has played as well as many other places in the country. (This is why the media thought someone like Yang would do well, BTW). If you think back to the state's history, this goes all the way to before there was a country, this is practical Dutch capitalists starting a sin-filled colony based on money making while all the others either got some religious issues with the English crown or wanting to be a farming gentleman just like they couldn't in the old country.

What I really found

Orion — Mon, 05 Jul 2021 18:37:28 +0000

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What I really found interesting about this race is that Eric Adams ran on a "law and order" pledge, was a former Republican and earned the praise of Tucker Carlson on his show. Andrew Yang also has a lot of fans on the right - I once watched a segment where Dave Rubin and Charlie Kirk sang his praises without him around.

Nevertheless, the Democratic machine is simply now too formidable and so Yang and Adams are on board it.

a reminder about what has

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 17:41:39 +0000

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a reminder about what has happened in the past with mayor's races, tho -- in the general many more people show up and vote who don't like the candidate picked by the Dem party dancers in the primary and surprise, surprise, surprise : Mayors Giuliani and Bloomberg in a "Democratic" town.

yeah, the closed nature of

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 17:37:04 +0000

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yeah, the closed nature of the nature of the NYC Dem primaries is always going to hurt the more independent-thinking Yang types, it's not sour grapes, he's right to imply that there's a huge "machine" of people whose who life is bascially owed to the Dem party and they are going to dance with the types that brought them. Is why many people were so shocked to see AOC win, too, except in her case her opponent may have gotten too arrogant and forgotten how to dance as well, you have to take care of "my people".

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Orion — Thu, 01 Jul 2021 07:40:40 +0000

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Buffalo November election is

artappraiser — Tue, 29 Jun 2021 00:33:18 +0000

In reply to Andrew Yang: "How we lost--and where we're going"

Buffalo November election is going to be wild, with incumbent Mayor who lost Democratic primary going in as a write-in candidate against socialist who won the Democratic primary https://t.co/u8cesOk5G1
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) June 28, 2021

This IS going to be wild; I listened to the first 10 minutes, it is VERY interesting as regards Dem party divisions.

He attacks her as a radical socialist very strongly, and attacks socialism, and from an otherwise Dem liberal perspective, including talking about diversity!

It very much implies he thinks she won because only the radicals came out to vote and now the majority of the city is now freaked out and scared of what she's going to do, scared about the future. That a real scary thing has happened, he does say people are "frightened" by her. He mentions that people already pay enough taxes. It's very clear he's running a campaign against her because he feels he has a duty to save the city from this radical mistake that happened. It almost sounds sort of like Lenin has staged a coup of Buffalo and it's going to go to ruin in short order unless he prevents her from taking office...