dagblog - Comments for "[Havoc over schooling] Kentucky Ed. Chief to teachers: Stop &#039;hateful,&#039; &#039;nasty&#039; emails" http://dagblog.com/link/public-schools-havoc-kentucky-ed-chief-teachers-stop-hateful-nasty-emails-34456 Comments for "[Havoc over schooling] Kentucky Ed. Chief to teachers: Stop 'hateful,' 'nasty' emails" en they beg to differ: http://dagblog.com/comment/308280#comment-308280 <a id="comment-308280"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308210#comment-308210">People like similarities and</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>they beg to differ:</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="es" xml:lang="es">'Merica <a href="https://t.co/XIQeUWsKjF">https://t.co/XIQeUWsKjF</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1417319103119994882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Tue, 20 Jul 2021 03:14:21 +0000 artappraiser comment 308280 at http://dagblog.com People like similarities and http://dagblog.com/comment/308210#comment-308210 <a id="comment-308210"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308208#comment-308208">This tweet and video made me</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>People like similarities and sometimes differences. YMMV. Prolly 90% of romantic pairings in the world are 2 of the same ethnic tribe. Part of this is sexual, part behavioral, part just the psychology of knowingness &amp; shared culture - which can be LA  beach surfers or Macon, Georgia church community (or whatever they do there). We sometimes go for "exotic", but either matching exotic or exotic that doesn't stray too far from our homegrown (so we can cut our hair and take that management position w/o too much splainin the tattoos). A lot of the "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" is from an earlier life phase of experimenting more, which doesn't always last, though with the growing diversity and changing numbers,  there is more mixing for curiosity/interest-friendahip with "the other". Still, homogenous groups - who you go to parties with or meet after work - are still more the norm. Claiming this is innate racism or some other pejorative is just denying who we are as people, whatever variance there is between individuals and groups. (obviously we also group mostly in small groups of females, small groups of males, sometimes 2-4 males with one token girl, and then paired romantic potential or actual romantic partners. Occasionally there might be 3 or 4 couples who all do stuff together - see Friends for an unusual concoction that served humor well).</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 17 Jul 2021 07:01:50 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 308210 at http://dagblog.com This tweet and video made me http://dagblog.com/comment/308208#comment-308208 <a id="comment-308208"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308114#comment-308114">I thought we only had 4 races</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This tweet and video made me think of how I must have imagined it, as I have this memory of when I was young that this country was like torn apart by forced integration of the schools for the very reason expressed below. I must be getting age-related dementia and remembering things wrong?</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Two kids—one we'd race as "white," one we'd race as "black"—selected one another for "twin day" at school.<br /><br /> "We have the same eyebrows."<br /><br /> Kids have to learn to racialize themselves and others.<br /><br /> Watch the video : <a href="https://t.co/vF7zDxZDsM">https://t.co/vF7zDxZDsM</a></p> — Free Black Thought (@FreeBlckThought) <a href="https://twitter.com/FreeBlckThought/status/1416281928035078148?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 17 Jul 2021 06:31:38 +0000 artappraiser comment 308208 at http://dagblog.com this kind of number is why http://dagblog.com/comment/308174#comment-308174 <a id="comment-308174"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/public-schools-havoc-kentucky-ed-chief-teachers-stop-hateful-nasty-emails-34456">[Havoc over schooling] Kentucky Ed. Chief to teachers: Stop &#039;hateful,&#039; &#039;nasty&#039; emails</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>this kind of number is why education social justice warriors don't like testing and grading? is like: if you can't see it, then it can't be true? grandma used to call that sort of thing "sweeping it under the rug"?</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="und" xml:lang="und"><a href="https://t.co/3Md3C8omUK">https://t.co/3Md3C8omUK</a></p> — Corey A. DeAngelis (@DeAngelisCorey) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeAngelisCorey/status/1415375278637989894?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Jul 2021 22:20:48 +0000 artappraiser comment 308174 at http://dagblog.com I thought we only had 4 races http://dagblog.com/comment/308114#comment-308114 <a id="comment-308114"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308103#comment-308103">The National Association of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I thought we only had 4 races and 4 or 5 genders.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:40:23 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 308114 at http://dagblog.com The National Association of http://dagblog.com/comment/308103#comment-308103 <a id="comment-308103"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/public-schools-havoc-kentucky-ed-chief-teachers-stop-hateful-nasty-emails-34456">[Havoc over schooling] Kentucky Ed. Chief to teachers: Stop &#039;hateful,&#039; &#039;nasty&#039; emails</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">The National Association of Independent Schools is openly promoting segregation in K-12 schools.<br /><br /> This is neo-racism in action. <a href="https://t.co/v5lQnUWKU3">https://t.co/v5lQnUWKU3</a></p> — Foundation Against Intolerance &amp; Racism (FAIR) (@fairforall_org) <a href="https://twitter.com/fairforall_org/status/1414646833666662404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">I don't think I met another desi person in public school until I was in high school. Not sure which "race-based affinity group" I would've been placed into, maybe they would've just had me draw straws <a href="https://t.co/XquhjSJUEs">https://t.co/XquhjSJUEs</a></p> — Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZaidJilani/status/1415508707446767631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Thu, 15 Jul 2021 05:12:14 +0000 artappraiser comment 308103 at http://dagblog.com comes to mind with your http://dagblog.com/comment/308075#comment-308075 <a id="comment-308075"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308066#comment-308066">Black people are owed tenure,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>comes to mind with your comment about "working one's way up" that "tenure upon hiring" is quite an unusual thing, and as you suggest, something a university would offer only to a big celebrity draw, which is <em>exactly the kind of thing they have been doing that he's complaining about, hah.</em> That's our Cornel!</p> <p>(My initial thought was about another roll-one's-eyes type of thing: that's it's so easy to take a stand against an employer and resign over it when you are about to retire with an assured income.)</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:41:39 +0000 artappraiser comment 308075 at http://dagblog.com Online-only sux; onground up http://dagblog.com/comment/308069#comment-308069 <a id="comment-308069"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/public-schools-havoc-kentucky-ed-chief-teachers-stop-hateful-nasty-emails-34456">[Havoc over schooling] Kentucky Ed. Chief to teachers: Stop &#039;hateful,&#039; &#039;nasty&#039; emails</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Online-only sux; onground up works</p> <p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryancraig/2021/07/09/the-edtech-gap-between-china-and-the-us/?sh=64c97f1332fc">https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryancraig/2021/07/09/the-edtech-gap-between...</a></p> </div></div></div> Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:12:10 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 308069 at http://dagblog.com Black people are owed tenure, http://dagblog.com/comment/308066#comment-308066 <a id="comment-308066"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308041#comment-308041">As a natural cynic I looked</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Black people are owed tenure, is that the message these 2 are giving us? Silly me assumed most professors worked their way up to tenure, and if transferring schools *might* keep tenure if desirable enough. Yes, at 68 Cornel is a bit shop-worn, not the draw he was 10 years ago, and his stands against the schools he's part of might wear out his welcome, shitting in his own yard we call it?</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:46:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 308066 at http://dagblog.com I don't like the phrasing. http://dagblog.com/comment/308065#comment-308065 <a id="comment-308065"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/308036#comment-308036">This exchange encapsulates a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't like the phrasing.</p> <p>I posted a while ago about a black woman who went for a divinity degree and then some Masters (or reverse), she &amp; her husband ended up with a half million or so in student debts. I wouldn't claim she was unqualified. I would claim she was extremely unwise in taking on so much debt for u monetizable professions. (i think she's in the student advisement office at some college). </p> <p>Since they made college tuition and loans big business, it's like old credit card targeting days - everyone's a lamb to the slaughter. So yes, some won't be cut out for college (though I'd argue that sometimes a well-tried but failed 1 or 2 years can still be valuable, tho Community College might be a better choice), but the biggest issue is giving all loans for all programs without some reality check for ability (and pain) if paying it all back. </p> <p>Plus I'll do a check on what % of the student loan crisis is black, seeing as blacks are only 13% of the population and I'd guess a smaller % of the college cohort.</p> <p>Oh. That's a high % of blacks graduating in the over-$40k segments</p> <p><img alt="" height="283" src="https://educationdata.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/average-student-loan-debt-12-months-after-graduation.png" width="500" /></p> </div></div></div> Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:37:00 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 308065 at http://dagblog.com