dagblog - Comments for "A Shameful Flight Last US Days in Kabul" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/shameful-flight-last-us-days-kabul-34533 Comments for "A Shameful Flight Last US Days in Kabul" en funny how drastically the http://dagblog.com/comment/315955#comment-315955 <a id="comment-315955"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/shameful-flight-last-us-days-kabul-34533">A Shameful Flight Last US Days in Kabul</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>funny how drastically the winds can change in a few short months</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed"> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" height="" width=""> <p dir="ltr" lang="en" xml:lang="en">Opinion: It is a tasteless thing to argue, but America will be the ultimate 'winner' of the Ukrainian crisis. After its exit from Afghanistan suggested imperial decline, the nation’s strategic prospects are changing in ways that are unrecognisably better <a href="https://t.co/5FwAGntxoI">https://t.co/5FwAGntxoI</a></p> — Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/FinancialTimes/status/1511524188502249472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async="" charset="utf-8" height="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" width=""></script></div> </div></div></div> Wed, 06 Apr 2022 02:05:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 315955 at http://dagblog.com An comprehensive http://dagblog.com/comment/309698#comment-309698 <a id="comment-309698"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/shameful-flight-last-us-days-kabul-34533">A Shameful Flight Last US Days in Kabul</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A comprehensive <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/10/world/asia/us-air-strike-drone-kabul-afghanistan-isis.html">investigation</a> by the NYT shows Joint Chief of Staff Milley's claim that the drone strike, the last US strike before leaving Afghanistan, and which killed 10 innocent civilians including 7 children, was not "righteous" (Milley's word) but perhaps the most unwarranted, egregious and criminal single drone operation in US military history.</p> <p>"The Times reporting has identified the driver as Zemari Ahmadi, a longtime worker for a U.S. aid group. The evidence, including extensive interviews with family members, co-workers and witnesses, suggests that his travels that day actually involved transporting colleagues to and from work. And an analysis of video feeds showed that what the military may have seen was Mr. Ahmadi and a colleague loading canisters of water into his trunk to bring home to his family..</p> <p>Experts who examined photos and videos pointed out that, although there was clear evidence of a missile strike and subsequent vehicle fire, there were no collapsed or blown-out walls, no destroyed vegetation, and only one dent in the entrance gate, indicating a single shock wave.</p> <p>“It seriously questions the credibility of the intelligence or technology utilized to determine this was a legitimate target,” said Chris Cobb-Smith, a British Army veteran and security consultant..."</p> <p>Dagblog, 8/30, <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-isis-k-strike-killed-10-charity-worker-family-34564#comments">NCD</a>:</p> <p>"Ground floor green door in picture above was not blown off, not to mention walls damaged/blown to bits, and old stucco is undamaged, 2nd floor patio sunshade undisturbed, see WaPo article or my blog.</p> <p>Drone missiles are specially made just to kill people in target vehicles, explosive amount is a tiny fraction of a car bomb."</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 10 Sep 2021 21:33:17 +0000 NCD comment 309698 at http://dagblog.com BBC account of drone strike http://dagblog.com/comment/309549#comment-309549 <a id="comment-309549"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/shameful-flight-last-us-days-kabul-34533">A Shameful Flight Last US Days in Kabul</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>BBC account of drone strike quotes <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/58401027">expert</a> who backs NCD posts above:</p> <p>"One expert, Brian Castner of Amnesty International, said the visual evidence led him to believe this was a single strike, followed by a fire in the car itself, and possibly the explosion of a fuel tank in a neighbouring vehicle.</p> <p>"I have not seen evidence of a secondary blast," he told us. "If there had been a significant secondary explosion, I would have expected to see much more damage in a confined space."</p> <p>He said there appeared to be only light fragmentation damage on the adjacent vehicle and on the walls of nearby buildings. He also points out that the black smoke that can be seen rising in a video filmed from nearby, is consistent with a petrol fire from a vehicle."</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 04 Sep 2021 23:04:24 +0000 NCD comment 309549 at http://dagblog.com Difference between "wasn't http://dagblog.com/comment/309535#comment-309535 <a id="comment-309535"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/309532#comment-309532">Saying he couldn&#039;t have</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Difference between "wasn't ever going to look that pretty" and "in many areas his hands were tied" vs "he couldn't have handled it better".</p> <p>Someone pointed out last night his shock that Biden didn't coordinate this with allies (such as the Brits) - that's perhaps a more bothersome essential detail than many of the complaints - are we still runnintlg Trumpian go-it-alone policy and pissing off Europe?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 04 Sep 2021 06:02:17 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 309535 at http://dagblog.com Saying he couldn't have http://dagblog.com/comment/309532#comment-309532 <a id="comment-309532"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/309530#comment-309530">Define &quot;defend&quot;</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Saying he couldn't have handled it any better(I don't mean people here).</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 03 Sep 2021 22:54:13 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 309532 at http://dagblog.com Define "defend" http://dagblog.com/comment/309530#comment-309530 <a id="comment-309530"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/309529#comment-309529">I&#039;m somewhat surprised to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Define "defend"</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 03 Sep 2021 19:56:06 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 309530 at http://dagblog.com I'm somewhat surprised to http://dagblog.com/comment/309529#comment-309529 <a id="comment-309529"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/shameful-flight-last-us-days-kabul-34533">A Shameful Flight Last US Days in Kabul</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'm somewhat surprised to find people online defending Biden's handling of the withdrawal.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 03 Sep 2021 19:36:52 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 309529 at http://dagblog.com Huh? We've been withdrawing http://dagblog.com/comment/309488#comment-309488 <a id="comment-309488"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/309486#comment-309486">I&#039;m glad we&#039;re finally out,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Huh? We've been withdrawing from Afghanistan for 20 years, we've been lying about it 20 years. If they blew more smoke up Joe's ass, so it goes. You and i knew things were fucked up there despite the constant Petraeus-like bullshit. And the reason politicians lie is people want to hear lies. Sure, Taliban could've taken over in 2 months instead of 2 weeks and somehow people would be happier, it would've been cleaner. We are suckers.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 01 Sep 2021 22:47:16 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 309488 at http://dagblog.com The lying by Biden and his http://dagblog.com/comment/309487#comment-309487 <a id="comment-309487"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/309486#comment-309486">I&#039;m glad we&#039;re finally out,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The lying by Biden and his administration, and the head in the sand 'preparation for all contingencies' BS are jaw dropping.</p> <p>This today, General Milley no longer claiming 'secondary exp!osions and car bomb', but 'righteous' drone strike.   </p> <p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/01/afghanistan-kabul-taliban-live-updates/">WaPo</a>: Live Afghanistan updatesTop general defends Kabul drone strike, despite reported civilian casualties</p> <p>"The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Wednesday defended Sunday’s U.S. drone strike in Kabul that appears to have caused civilian casualtieshe strike, targeting an “imminent” threat posed by the Islamic State’s offshoot in Afghanistan, was “righteous,” Gen. Mark A. Milley said, and through a “variety of means,” military officials know that at least one Islamic State member, whom they have declined to name, was killed.</p> <p>“At the time — and I think this is still valid — we had very good intelligence that ISIS-K was preparing a specific type of vehicle at a specific type of location,” he said. “We monitored that through various means and all of the engagement criteria were being met. We went through the same level of rigor that we’ve done for years....."</p> <p>Milley not only didn't name the person, he provided no proof how this person was an imminent danger to American forces, as the car bomb excuse is such obvious BS they have now dropped it.</p> <p>To repeat, check photos from NYT and WaPi, and above. No car bomb: </p> <p>Structure of parking lot walls intact. 2nd floor patios intact with furniture, flimsy sun shade intact, clothes still  on wash line, no windows broken, first floor green door (NYT) undamaged, no crater.</p> <p>We are being lied to again over this negligent act that Biden 'needed' to show he was tough. It was a heinous capper to a fiasco.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 01 Sep 2021 21:45:14 +0000 NCD comment 309487 at http://dagblog.com I'm glad we're finally out, http://dagblog.com/comment/309486#comment-309486 <a id="comment-309486"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/shameful-flight-last-us-days-kabul-34533">A Shameful Flight Last US Days in Kabul</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'm glad we're finally out, but Biden's bungling of the withdrawal is criminal negligence.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 01 Sep 2021 20:53:09 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 309486 at http://dagblog.com