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Officer Desai ^^^ His killer

artappraiser — Thu, 11 Nov 2021 01:36:48 +0000

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Officer Desai ^^^ His killer >>>

Cop Killer Died by Suicide as Authorities Were Feet Away from Arresting Him: Policehttps://t.co/N5NT3zByd2
— Law & Crime (@lawcrimenews) November 10, 2021

Another one, and let's not

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 23:36:28 +0000

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Another one, and let's not beat around the Bush, clearly a member of a minority as well! Where are those social workers in Georgia who are willing to risk taking bullets?

Officer Paramhans Desai of the Henry County Police Department was shot last week responding to a domestic violence call succumbing to his injuries yesterday. Our thoughts & prayers go out to his wife and two young children. More info: https://t.co/m24rhkpEqR @HenryCoPolice pic.twitter.com/oIp4BncUv5
— NYPD 50th Precinct (@NYPD50Pct) November 9, 2021

Our deepest condolences go

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 11:11:17 +0000

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Our deepest condolences go out to the family & co-workers of Deputy Sheriff Lena Marshall, from the @JCSheriffOffice, who succumbed to gunshot wounds sustained three days earlier while responding to a domestic violence call. #FidelisAdMortem pic.twitter.com/bsgUFuzzJh
— NYPD NEWS (@NYPDnews) November 9, 2021

am reminded of the suggestions that "social workers" should be going out on domestic violence calls

JUSTICE: Two ex-Oklahoma

artappraiser — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 10:15:44 +0000

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JUSTICE: Two ex-Oklahoma officers convicted of murder for tasering man more than 50 times

@ TheHill.com - 11/08/21 08:11 PM EST

I notice stories like this a lot now.

On Dagblog over 2019 and early 2020 all I used to see only stories about everything cops had done that was criminal or bad from homicide and torture down to long threads about temporarily handcuffing two young men that Target employees said were shoplifters and weren't.

But the followup on those stories was rare on Dagblog. I suspected then that that lack was about building a narrative that wasn't accurate. But I didn't check myself, my bad. BUT I suspect all the more now. I wish someone would do research and stats on what happened after all those stories, how many got away with it, how many got prosecuted.I should have been looking for it, I wish someone would do research like that.

The point: had justice actually been going on for the most part as far as bad cops, before Geo Floyd's death or did they get lots of mulligans? I have a lot of skepticism that the protests changed anything as far as that is concerned. But that they did make things a lot worse in a lot of places for both justice and quality of life.

(Justice just means criminals get prosecuted and tried, get their due, not that you can clear evil from the earth. Even the Bible says the final judgment day is consign the unrepenetent sinners to hell, not to erase those souls? We're proud of not being Mullah Omar's Taliban doing the eye for an eye thing, I thought?)

I suspect the dominant effect of those protests is not that more bad cops were prosecuted--that was probably unchanged and a pretty equivalent percentage to civilians--but that decent cops pulled back in low income neighborhoods, civilians from all economic classes and skin colors bought a lot more guns, and independent voters in suburbs allover the suburbs country took another look at their local GOP.

Everyone should thank elite lefty Floyd protest organizers, anarchists and rioters/looters for those smelly fish.

Great piece from

artappraiser — Mon, 08 Nov 2021 06:43:55 +0000

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moved

Elisa Facchetti

artappraiser — Sun, 07 Nov 2021 10:41:15 +0000

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Elisa Facchetti

JMP: "Police Infrastructure, Police Performance, and Crime: Evidence from Austerity Cuts"

Website: https://t.co/nnP3cmLLF5 pic.twitter.com/NAYHmiKpxT
— Jennifer Doleac (@jenniferdoleac) November 6, 2021

Found via being retweeted by Yglesias. Faccetti is an up and coming economist. I have only read the abstract in the tweet and the following intro on Faccetti's research page, which links to the full paper in Dropbox. The indication is clear, however, that what she found is that defunding police is in direct opposition to most "BLM" stated goals! That defunding police is the last thing they should want to do, it results in a sizeable reduction in citizen's welfare, including their economic and social welfare and exacerbates existing inequality, and even that defunding police makes for a costlier criminal justice system!

"Police Infrastructure, Police Performance and Crime: Evidence from Austerity Cuts"

Honorable Mention at the 15th North American Meeting of the Urban Economics Association

The effect of neighbourhood police on citizens’ welfare is poorly understood. Yet, this is a key parameter in evaluating the impacts of reductions of police spending. I exploit a large wave of austerity cuts to police forces in London, which resulted in the closure of 70% of police stations and led to a major reshufﬂing of police workforce from closed to surviving stations. I combine novel granular data on reported crime, location of police stations and their closure, and information on individual crimes’ judicial outcomes. I show that the reduced local police presence led to a persistent signiﬁcant increase in violent crimes, consistent with lower deterrence, and reduced clearance rates, indicating lower police effectiveness. I also provide suggestive evidence consistent with reduced reporting of non-violent crimes, as citizens internalise a higher reporting cost. Overall, the policy led to a sizeable reduction in citizens’ welfare, which I document by showing a decrease in house prices concentrated in high-crime and more deprived census blocks, further exacerbating already existing inequality. Together, the closures produced considerable distributional and efﬁciency losses, and generated costs that substantially outweigh the beneﬁts in terms of lower public expenditure for the criminal justice system.

Pew analysis of new data:

artappraiser — Fri, 05 Nov 2021 08:32:33 +0000

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Pew analysis of new data: "Oregon’s Drug Decriminalization May Spread, Despite Unclear Results"

Initial data from drug decriminalization in Oregonhttps://t.co/rZwmaYTFde
— eapenthampy (@eapenthampy) November 5, 2021

it was her personal car, she

artappraiser — Mon, 01 Nov 2021 06:02:42 +0000

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it was her personal car, she was off duty, loading groceries in it with her husband, 3 kids approached distracting them with offers of help, but instead hopped in the car to steal it and drove it away

Prosecutors filed felony charges Sunday against a Chicago police sergeant who allegedly opened fire after teens stole her SUV outside an Evergreen Park store. The stolen car later crashed in the Loop and 5 juveniles were arrested.https://t.co/PMZrxMdDXB
— CWBChicago (@CWBChicago) November 1, 2021

Everyone should be aware of this tactic, I guess? no more pretending to help kids out by tipping them to "help" you?

It sounds like in Chicago, you're just supposed to let someone take your car whenever they feel like it without challenging or you could get in legal trouble; I glean that from other stories as well. That will be great (sarcasm) for everyone's insurance rates...

Chicago cop facing felony

artappraiser — Sun, 31 Oct 2021 22:57:04 +0000

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Chicago cop facing felony charge after allegedly shooting at carjackers in Evergreen Park. Big hat tip to @CWBChicago https://t.co/YMiaxx9L0f via @SunTimes
— Tom Schuba (@TomSchuba) October 31, 2021

Edit to add: replies are worth a look,There's lots of outrage, but let's just say it's definitely not the 'reign in the cops" kind. Keep in mind these are replies to a news reporter's tweet of his newspaper story, not an op-ed nor an ideologically motivated tweeter. I suspect there's not a whole lot of BLM supporters left in Chicago. People are fed up and afraid of criminality, not of cops. The reports of "criminals interrupting daily life" are the ones that often turn the tide. While gang wars stories are just: oh well, that's terrible but doesn't affect me if I make sure to stay out of that neighborhood.

Ex-NYPD Cop Convicted of

artappraiser — Sat, 30 Oct 2021 06:59:52 +0000

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Ex-NYPD Cop Convicted of Obstructing Murder-for-Hire Investigation Sentenced to Four Years in Prison for ‘Brazen’ and ‘Violent’ Plothttps://t.co/iV6G9IgsxN
— Law & Crime (@lawcrimenews) October 29, 2021